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It is a bullying tactic to use someones refusal to play into your trap as “evidence of lying”

And no you didn’t tell me why you wouldn’t, you told me to stalk you.

I said: " You have no way to audit it anyways, you’re just looking for a reason to dismiss it. So there’s really no point in me bothering to explain the situation."

And then told you why her treatment was refused: “I’ll tell you the reason, she was deemed too old for it to be financially viable and was just offered hospice care”

And then told you why I continue to refuse to answer: “And I won’t answer, solely because I don’t like your bizarre belief that other people’s own experiences (in a country you probably know nothing about so would just makeup a reason to discard it) are subject to your interrogation. This was the experience of my relative, you can believe me or not, but please tell me how me telling you the country and condition(which I don’t know the name of anyways) would enable you to evaluate what I said is true.”

I am telling you, there is no real capacity to research this. First of all, I doubt you speak the language, and second, its not like there’s a public statement saying “Old people will be abandoned and treatment will be refused”

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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I can’t trap you or make you lie.

All you had to do was name the country and the disorder.

You can’t because it was a lie.

You can make all the excuses you like to not name a country and a disorder, but it doesn’t make it any less of a lie.

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- aidan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  You can’t because it was a lie.
  
  You can make all the excuses you like to not name a country and a disorder, but it doesn’t make it any less of a lie.
  
  Like I said I. This is a bullying tactic. Your intent is to be obnoxious so you can feel like you won. Its not a lie. You know its not a lie. And you know me naming a country proves nothing. Its just an attempt to get someone to “submit” to your demands so you can feel in control. You know I could say it’s Cron’s in Andorra, or ALS in Latvia, or a brain tumor in Finland. If you believe I’m lying why wouldn’t I say one of those lies? Its because you know I’m not, you just want to get me to “submit”.
  
  Believe what you want, but you are a bully. I shared my own experience, and you seized that opportunity to be hostile and try to exert control over me through personal attacks on my character.
  
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  - FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sorry, insulting me will not make your lie true.
    
    As for why you’re lying? Probably because if you had named an actual country and an actual disorder, I could look it up and find out how much, if anything, it costs to treat in that country vs. the U.S. (including travel costs and hotel while you’re staying there). And your whole point was that, supposedly, people have to come to the U.S. for treatment since they can’t afford it in their country with universal healthcare.
    
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    aidan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Sorry, insulting me will not make your lie true.
    
    I’m not insulting you. I am describing the effect you are having on me. You are victimizing me through you’re bullying.
    
    You accused me of lying. That is insulting me.
    
    Probably because if you had named an actual country and an actual disorder, I could look it up and find out how much, if anything, it costs to treat in that country vs. the U.S.
    
    I said a long time ago I don’t know the name of the condition.
    
    (including travel costs and hotel while you’re staying there).
    
    She doesn’t stay in a hotel she stays with her daughter’s family.
    
    And your whole point was that, supposedly, people have to come to the U.S. for treatment since they can’t afford it in their country with universal healthcare.
    
    I never said she can’t afford it, she can. The treatment is not provided to her. And the treatment that is provided is low quality.
    
    It’s not just a lie, it’s an extremely silly and transparent lie.
    
    So what does it mean since its the truth? That your hatred and mistrust of others who were just trying to have a calm discussion is misplaced?
    
    But please, go on with your insults and claims of bullying. It won’t make your lie true.
    
    Again not a lie. Actually, please, search my whole profile. Find somewhere that I have lied.
    
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