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• aidan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is so ridiculously vague that I have no reason to believe it.

  You can believe what you want. You have no way to audit it anyways, you’re just looking for a reason to dismiss it. So there’s really no point in me bothering to explain the situation.

  Also, I’m not sure why this isn’t clear to you either, but teachers in the U.S. have massive amounts of student loan debts.

  Yes some teachers do and some don’t.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And now you’re being incredibly disingenuous. Almost all American teachers have student loan debt for the same reason that almost all American college students have student loan debt.

    And I’m not “looking for a reason to dismiss it,” you’ve given me a reason to dismiss it since I can’t investigate why this disorder was not treatable in the country they left.

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Almost all American teachers have student loan debt for the same reason that almost all American college students have student loan debt.

      Do you have a source for that? I didn’t go to college in the US, but of my friends that did, none have debt.

      And I’m not “looking for a reason to dismiss it,” you’ve given me a reason to dismiss it since I can’t investigate why this disorder was not treatable in the country they left.

      I’ll tell you the reason, she was deemed too old for it to be financially viable and was just offered hospice care

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sorry, no, that’s not the reason she was ill or what country she was in.

        Also-

        Most teachers have taken out student loans to support their education. Just over 60% of all full-time, public school teachers—about 2.1 million—have taken out student loans to pay for their education. Rates of borrowing among teachers are similar to the borrowing rates of all individuals who have recently completed a bachelor’s or a master’s degree. Among all teachers, 55.5% of teachers with a bachelor’s degree and 63.2% of teachers with a master’s degree have ever borrowed for their education, while 60.8% of all individuals who completed a bachelor’s degree and 66.2% of those who completed a master’s degree in any major in 2020 had taken out student loans. However, the borrowing rates among program completers who majored in education are higher than the average program completer in any major at both the bachelor’s (75.9%) and master’s (76.4%) degree levels of educational attainment.

        Many teachers are still repaying their student loans. Roughly 1.3 million teachers are repaying their student loans, suggesting that the resumption of student loan repayments affects close to 4 of every 10 teachers (37.2%), nearly one third of whom (11.5% of all teachers) still owe their entire balance. As expected by the typical timing and structure of student loans and teachers’ ability to repay over time, the portion of teachers who carry loan balances decreases as teachers age and gain teaching experience. Still, a sizeable portion of teachers carry loan debt well into their careers: For example, almost 2 of every 10 teachers over 61 years old are still repaying loans. On average, teachers who were repaying their student loans report paying $342 a month, which exceeds the amount the typical borrower pays toward their student loans monthly ($200–$299).

        learningpolicyinstitute.org/…/student-loans-among…

        Maybe stop talking about conditions in the U.S. like you’re an expert since you apparently aren’t even here.

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