Comment on Louis Rossmann's response to harsh criticism of "Stop Killing Games" from Thor of @PirateSoftware

• aksdb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Not a fair comparison. The private servers were written with the small hosting in mind. They would very likely never scale to what Blizzard has in place. For all I know, Blizzard could run their stuff on a Mainframe with specific platform optimizations against an IBM DB2.

  But I also don’t think this has to be transferable to a local setup without effort either. Once they release the source, people can refactor or reengineer it to run on smaller scale, replace proprietary databases with free ones, etc.

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  • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You found the point. It’s not about having it scale to the level the official servers are at. It’s about preserving it in some fashion, so that the dedicated few can still experience it. We don’t need thousands, we need a few dozen. And, if developers develop with this design philosophy - that eventually the game servers will be shut down and we have to release a hostable version at end of life, then the games can be written from the ground up with that implementation in mind.

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    • aksdb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Such an architecture is typically shit. Building a system that is simple AND scales high won’t work. Complexity usually gets added to cope with scale. If we don’t allow companies to build scalable (i.e. complex) systems, we simply won’t get such games anymore.

      Again: I am completely in favor of forcing devs to release everything necessary to host it. I am not in favor of forcing devs to target home machines for their servers, when their servers clearly have completely different requirements. That’s unrealistic.

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      • hswolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Its not said that they need devs to taget home machines, it says they need to give the resources so people can host it themselves, period.

        Also, tell me you’ve never worked with scalable infrastructure without telling me you have never worked with it.

        There are dozens, if not hundreda of games, including MMOs, that are privated hosted, and by that I don’t mean hosted in a basement potato.

        Look at Ragnarok servers, there are hundreds of them, DEDICATED servers, with all the newest technology, for an old game nonetheless.

        Have you ever seem how massive the infrastructure are for those big minecraft multi-servers? Thousands and thousands of concurrent players.

        Im not asking you to research what you’re talking about or anything, but if you clearly dont know what you’re talking about, refraing from sharing your opinion so you may not negatively influence a similar minded person.

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