Comment on 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)

• alyaza@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  there is no phrasing to be redone; it’s the official wording, i am decidedly not a person offended by the whitelist/blacklist terminology, and i think if you can only racialize this verbiage that weirdness on your part. i’m sure there are some people who have problems with it, but i genuinely don’t know that i’ve ever–as a black person–thought for a second about this outside of white people getting offended on my behalf. certainly not when online spaces struggle with so much actual racism, ignorance, and dismissiveness of those prior two things (as has been on display in this thread).

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  • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Seeing how society is consciously trying to move beyond white inherently being good and black inherently being bad, I think it’s perfectly right for someone to ask you to check your verbage. Just switch to allowlist/denylist like the rest of tech has done.

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    • alyaza@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      see: “i think if you can only racialize this verbiage when you hear it that’s weirdness on your part.” and again i think this very much people wanting to die on an unimportant hill that they can feel sanctimonious/virtue-signally about and scold people about instead of tackling actual manifestations of racism in the tech field.

      like if people want to address something that materially affects black people and other minorities in tech, that should probably start with the omnipresent discriminatory hiring practices and normalized racism–not terminology that requires racialization to be problematic. (and it should probably start with not checking actual black people’s opinions on the subject like they’re the reason any of this is a problem!)

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      • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        actual black people’s opinions

        But I’m black too though and I don’t remember voting for you as our representative. Which is to say, yes, there’s certainly other things we can do to tackle racism, but tackling ground level stuff like inherently painting black as bad and/or negative is part of that. You’re free to disagree, but so would Candace Owens, so being black means nothing when you’re on the wrong side of the issue.

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  • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve seen increasing usage of allowlist/denylist .

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