Comment on Hacker Shows How to Get Free Laundry For Life

• thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s a different issue. The machine was obviously defective, not stealing your money. And even if someone steal from you, doesn’t change the fact you stole too. Someone doing something illegal does not give you the rights doing something illegal too.

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  • terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And to a point I agree. But the way the story reads, it sounds like not much was done with the new machines after installation. We’ve all had money taken from faulty vending machines. But the stakes are slightly higher in this.

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    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But isn’t he abusing it further than just getting his money back? If you know a weak point on a machine and use it just so you give yourself the right to abuse it, is criminal in my opinion. The first time is probably an accident and taking back what is his own. Now he has the knowledge and is going with the intention to abuse a defect.

      Let’s say a shop website has an issue and one time the site was faulty and did take your money without anything in return. Then the hacker decides to break the law and get his money back, somewhat understandable, but not legally right. Still stealing. Then he realizes this loophole would be abused to make more money and nobody would notice. That’s not okay anymore.

      Or do I read it wrong here? The above analogy hopefully explains how I view this situation.

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      • jarfil@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Some businesses mess up… and understand that their clients need to feel like they’re being treated fairly in order to keep earning money from them, which means giving their money back, an apology, and maybe some free credit or discount coupons.

        Other businesses, think they can abuse their users freely… until they end up pissing the wrong guy. Sometimes it’s a guy with a spray can, sometimes it’s a guy with a brick, and sometimes it’s someone capable of abusing them back.

        You can call it illegal, it might even be morally wrong and excessive… but that’s what happens when you abuse people more than what they’re willing to take. Action and reaction, fuck around and find out, and all that.

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      • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re right, but at the same time.

        Let’s say a website has an issue and was one time faulty. Clients lost money. Then the site owner is notified of the fault by multiple clients. The site owner uses some words to placate them and goes on with their day.

        The site owner then makes some changes to the site, meaning they did have the time and money to pay a developer to update the site, but decides to keep the previous bug in, as a feature, implemented in a different way, this time better at stealing their money.

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        Sure, the obvious solution is to use another site (the laundromat down the road).

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