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Comment on I need new glasses. The only insurance-approved place I can shop online will cost $250 with my needs. I went to a "cheap" glasses website that doesn't accept insurance: $250. Yay, America.

SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

I’m an ABOA advanced optician, I’ve helped with lens designs, I’ve made my own line of frames, worked with every insurance company, and know the technical details of virtually every product on the market.

If it’s going to cost the same either way, do not get the online glasses. The 250 in store is discounted from probably 1200$, and the difference is immediately noticable.

The online glasses will not be measured to fit you properly, the focal point will be a best guess, which makes progressives have a ton of distortion, the frame won’t be adjusted and have no standards of material and shitty spring hinges, the transitions will be an old off brand composited lens that will delaminate after some time, the antireflective will be the cheapest, smudging crap possible, and the lenses will be thicker and heavier.

Go to a local optical, not any chain you’ve ever heard of. No corporate execs to pay means actual paid professionals helping you see better, as opposed to collision salesman trying to rip you off.

Online glasses are for single vision rx’s for children, not anybody who really needs glasses.

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DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Man, I wish this was always true.

Here in BC/Canada, our healthcare doesn’t cover glasses, and our 3rd party providers only cover $2-300 every 2 years for glasses.

My last job had a $500 yearly flex-spend coverage, which I used to buy $600 glasses (mainly lenses cost-wise) with all the options/coatings/transitions/blue light filter/etc from the local eye clinic, and honestly the lenses are not great, and after less than 3 years the coating is bubbling in horizontal lines across the entire lens.

Honestly though, been regretting getting glasses with the blue light filter for the past 2 years anyways, nothing feels vibrant anymore and i swear it has been negatively affecting my mood, and i have noticed zero difference in eye strain levels.

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- SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Blue light filters have a purpose, but it isn’t eye strain. That’s just marketing bullshit from people who don’t know it’s purpose or can’t be bothered to translate it to laymen.
  
  It’s purpose is to protect your retina from damage that accumulates throughout your life. It’s to protect you from developing macular degeneration. It does nothing anyone will notice, it’s more like sunblock, except you can’t feel the burn.
  
  Also if someone sells you shit products, go to someone better if possible. But avoid chains at all costs.
  
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  - DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    So life loses vibrancy, but my retinas stay in slightly better shape when I’m 80? Sounds like future me problem then, definitely have no interest in trying again with a different pair after my next eye exam.
    
    Unfortunately every eye doctor in this province (or at least not a 13 hour drive away) is associated with a chain, with I think a single exception that is referral only. So the best I can do is get an eye exam, demand my detailed results, and do my best to order glasses that fit comfortably.
    
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  - electric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Wait, the blue tint actually does something? Everyone kept telling me to get it because sCrEeNs BaD but I wanted the clearest vision possible. Couldn’t find anything online saying the blue tint wasn’t useless so saved myself the $30.
    
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    SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Just wear sunglasses when outside and you’re good. Or get transitions and never think about it again.
    
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gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

the frame won’t be adjusted and have no standards of material and shitty spring hinges

They’re the same frames sold in physical stores, though

the transitions will be an old off brand composited lens that will delaminate after some time the antireflective will be the cheapest, smudging crap possible, and the lenses will be thicker and heavier.

My old glasses that I don’t even wear anymore are 7 years old and never had issues and still aren’t delaminated at all, never had issues with smudging or glare

Go to a local optical, not any chain you’ve ever heard of. No corporate execs to pay means actual paid professionals helping you see better, as opposed to collision salesman trying to rip you off.

And yet you still spend way more than you would at somewhere like Zenni. So you’re getting ripped off for someone lower down the ladders benefit… Yay?

Online glasses are for single vision rx’s for children, not anybody who really needs glasses.

Complete bullshit. Not surprised that someone “with their own line of frames” would encourage people to go the pricier route, though.

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- SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I don’t feel like quoting or typing out responses, so I’ll just hit your points.
  
  No they’re fucking not. Not even close. There’s 200+ different manufacturers, and even individual lines from the same companies have wildly different qualities. I would know, since I work with them every day, go to several trade shows every year and didn’t get my info from Google.
  
  Survivorship bias, and you just noted you don’t wear them.
  
  This point is attempting to imply there is no difference in products, which there absolutely is.
  
  My line of frames is not a “big name”, and was only sold in 54 offices in 4 countries when I had them manufactured in 2021. There is no benefit to me for anyone to go to any store other than the two I own, you’ll never bump into my line, which I don’t make money from anyway.
  
  I’m glad you watched a video once, but this is my profession and I know better than you.
  
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  - gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    No they’re fucking not
    
    Nice source. Yes, they are.
    
    Survivorship bias, and you just noted you don’t wear them
    
    Holy shit dude, anymore. They survived 6 years of wearing. I’ve been using glasses off the internet for over 10 years as have 3 other people I know, it’s not survivorship bias if over 10 pairs of glasses haven’t had any of these issues you mention.
    
    This point is attempting to imply there is no difference in products, which there absolutely is.
    
    You’re right, the brand name glasses I used to wear have never lasted as long as my Zennis
    
    I’m glad you watched a video once
    
    Or I’ve ordered them and wear them regularly. Nice assumption though.
    
    but this is my profession
    
    So you’re incentives to keep the bullshit going? Well, I should definitely trust you!
    
    and I know better than you.
    
    Clearly not, as you said a bunch of shit would happen with these glasses that, again, I’ve never seen despite my and my wife both having our entire family order glasses online for the last 8-12 years (mine 12, hers 8ish). Oh, and friends as well for about the same amount of time.
    
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    SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    If you can’t tell the difference in quality between zenni and OvvO, lool, or paradigm frames, you’re willfully ignorant. I wouldn’t expect someone who only gets glasses online to know this since you have no experience. I however do.
    
    As for issues with lenses, I see 25 patients a day, and have for the last 12 years. I’ve seen a few more cases than you and your wife, or even you and your friends.
    
    Your opinions are not equal to my education and experience. I am literally an authority in this industry.
    
    I’ve designed frames and vetted manufacturing plants to find one that fit my standards for materials. I make lenses everyday. I troubleshoot and fix or replace eyewear everyday. I know what happens when a focal point is off center by 3 mm. I can tell when someone is wearing online glasses just by how the temples fit.
    
    There are a few very large companies that benefit greatly from pushing the idea that they’re all the same, and you’re shilling for them whether you know it or not.
    
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