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rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Go read something on

what Muslims did during their actual initial conquest

. This was casual for them. The difference is, though, that Crusaders didn’t intentionally destroy books and art.

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LotrOrc@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
They actually literally did. That was a huge part of the crusades.

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- rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  OK, said one stupid thing. Anyway, this makes them at worst as bad as Muslims.
  
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  - LotrOrc@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I hope you’re just really misinformed and not just really racist but you should take a quick stroll to your local library, buy a few history books and look around.
    
    Christianity has been far more brutal and repressive for a lot longer than pretty much every other religion out there.
    
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    rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m Armenian, so I know you’re bullshitting me in the context of the Middle-East. We are not talking Americas and Africa here.
    
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HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.

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- rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I know what I’m talking about, but I get furious over Westerners trying to find indulgence for their own ancestors’ actions at the expense of Middle-Eastern native Christians, and I see saying that Crusaders were somehow worse than any Muslim conquest as part of that.
  
  Being furious I may sometimes say something imprecise.
  
  Doesn’t negate the fact that Islam is not native to any place outside of the Arabian peninsula, and those areas it has invaded still have native populations and religions not yet completely exterminated, and those are largely Christian. Saying that Crusaders were the baddies, but the Muslims whom they were fighting were not, is disgusting in that context. It’s like that “Irish were like slaves too”, putting things into American context so that you’d understand better.
  
  Same as that myth of Salah ad-Din being benevolent and honorable, mostly started by German Empire’s propaganda as part of their relations with genocidal Ottoman Empire.
  
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