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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 months agoshe was the only Democrat more conservative than Biden
You can talk a lot of shit about Kamala, but she’s proven time and again to be a standard-issue California liberal Democrat. She’s right in line with Gruesome Newsome, Eric Adams, and Tim Kaine. If you want to see what a conservative dem looks like, check out Joe Manchin as he tries to weasel his way back into the party before the convention. Or Michael Bloomberg, the guy who was hosting the fucking RNC in New York and glad-handing Bush Jr back in 2004. Or Andrew Yang, a man who never saw a crypto-scam he wouldn’t shill for.
If you’ve got beef with Kamala, you’ve got beef with the mainstream liberalism of the Democratic Party. And that’s fine.
Trump’s ideological inconsistency
One of the reasons Trump was able to move so fluidly between mid-'00s New York Democrats and mid-'10s South Carolina Republicans stems from the fact that America is choke full of fascists. I don’t find his ideology to be particularly inconsistent. The dude’s always had a hard-on for Mussolini and a hate-on for anyone browner than milk. What’s benefited him is a mass media that fixates on his wealth and treats him like a celebrity, while providing zero resistence to his endless lying and bullying.
zephr_c@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant the only Democratic candidate in the 2020 primaries that was more conservative than Biden. I agree they’re both very mainstream middle of the road liberals. That was me not being careful with my language.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Tim Ryan, Steve Bullock, and John Delaney were more conservative in every meaningful respect. You can blame that on their constituencies (although Delaney really has no excuse - the man’s just a corporate freak) but they’re all both more economically and socially conservative on the generic basket of liberal policies. And none of them are going to lose to Copmala in a cop-loving contest. It will, at best, be a photo finish.
That’s before you get to the Bloomberg or Tulsi Gabbard, and they’re not even cops. Just straight up fascists.
zephr_c@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Oh god, I had somehow blocked Bloomberg and Tulsi Gabbard out of my brain. Yeah, that was a pretty big oversight on my part. And yeah, I wasn’t counting the other people who dropped out before the primaries got started, which is kind of unfair. Fine. She’s just a Democrat that’s slightly more conservative than Biden. Are you happy now?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 months ago
No. Because her voting history and her time as AG simply don’t reflect that. Whatever you might say about Harris, Biden quite literally wrote the laws and funneled money into the agencies that let her chase around the poor and defenseless. In a different world, where a more Kennedy/LBJ-esque figure was in Biden’s seat, Harris would have been granted a completely different mandate and toolkit and would have looked comparatively progressive as a result.
That’s before you get into the real awful shit Biden passed as Senator that Harris has (without much conviction) opposed. She’s been a vote for de-militarization in Iraq/Afghanistan, for decriminalization of a host of drugs, and for expanded public spending in health care and education in a way Biden simply hasn’t.
She still sucks for a host of reasons. But to claim she’s “more conservative than Biden” ignores Biden’s entire time in the Senate under Bush and Kamala’s entire time in the Senate under Trump.
imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Also just fucking insane