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Goldwater campaigned on opposing civil rights as the first direct attempt to claim southern EC votes by mobilizing racists and other regressive groups.

He opposed specific clauses and efforts of the civil rights movement of his time. Specifically pieces that violated his libertarian ideologies.

Nor is the argument that individual senators and congressmen changed parties, it is that the Repub party deliberately focused on campaigns and policies that would result in racists voting for them. I’m not sure why you are misrepresenting that.

I understand logic is hard for some people so I’ll break it down. The same Republicans that unanimously voted for every civil rights act but one continued to represent their constituents as Republicans, the same racists democrats stayed represented their part into the 2000s.

Southern Strategy and the deliberate decisions of the Repub party in decades following have inextricably linked the whole party with a core block of racist voters. Now even so-called “moderate” Repubs must accept the overt racism alongside whatever wedge issue they are voting for.

Race issues are not important issues for either party since the 70s, it’s been the economy.

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barsquid@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
He campaigned on specific pieces that violated southerners’ ideologies, such as racial equality. And then later you have Lee Atwater ramp it up for campaign strategy. salon.com/…/audio_of_lee_atwaters_infamous_81_int…

Race issues are not important issues for either party since the 70s, it’s been the economy.

Ah, yes, the modern economic issues of “Mexicans are rapists and thieves” that Repubs believe in.

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- jimbolauski@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  He campaigned on specific pieces that violated southerners’ ideologies, such as racial equality. And then later you have Lee Atwater ramp it up for campaign strategy. www.salon.com/…/audio_of_lee_atwaters_infamous_8
  
  Atwaters interview is not the golden bullet you think it is, nor have you been able to show when the parties switched, or even provide evidence that all the racists democrats switched parties. So far you’ve shown one guy saying that Republicans tried to court racists democrats.
  
  Ah, yes, the modern economic issues of “Mexicans are rapists and thieves” that Repubs believe in.
  
  Immigration policies directly effect the labor pool, Americans are paid less due to open borders.
  
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  - barsquid@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The incontrovertible truth is that the white supremacists are Repub. We can look at which rallies have the Confederate flags, which Nazis rallies have the “good guys on both sides,” and which insurrections have the “Camp Auschwitz” hoodies. We can all see it. You are fooling nobody. The absolute truth is somewhere between the Emancipation Proclamation and now, most Repubs have switched from anti- to pro-Confederate.
    
    You and I both know that the Southern Strategy occurred. You want to pretend it doesn’t. That is why you badgered until you could find one specific thing that you could deny with whatever outlandish claims you can think of. You want a year, month, and day so that you can smugly say, “nuh-uh, one Dem was racist beyond that point therefore it is wrong.”
    
    Even then, the best you can come up with there is “that racism is actually libertarianism” about Goldwater and “nuh-uh, not true” about Atwater.
    
    Why am I wasting my time interacting with a disingenuous bad faith liar? Look at where the racists are gathered. Read an actual article on Southern Strategy if you want to know why Repub voters and Repub leadership are majority racist.
    
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    jimbolauski@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    The incontrovertible truth is that the white supremacists are Repub. We can look at which rallies have the Confederate flags, which Nazis rallies have the “good guys on both sides,” and which insurrections have the “Camp Auschwitz” hoodies. We can all see it. You are fooling nobody. The absolute truth is somewhere between the Emancipation Proclamation and now, most Repubs have switched from anti- to pro-Confederate.
    
    Which Republican rallies had confederate flags?
    
    You’re dumber than I though if you think Trump was talking about Nazis when he commented on the Lee statue protest.
    
    If you’re looking for antisemitism the Democratic party is where to find it.
    
    You and I both know that the Southern Strategy occurred. You want to pretend it doesn’t.
    
    The southern stragity’s existence is not evidence that the parties switched. The racists democrats would would still need to switch parties, they did not.
    
    That is why you badgered until you could find one specific thing that you could deny with whatever outlandish claims you can think of. You want a year, month, and day so that you can smugly say, “nuh-uh, one Dem was racist beyond that point therefore it is wrong.”
    
    You’re so afraid to provide a date that you’re trying to straw man an argument that I never made. Switching parties can’t be proven or not based on one person. It’s a group of people.
    
    Even then, the best you can come up with there is “that racism is actually libertarianism” about Goldwater and “nuh-uh, not true” about Atwater.
    
    Goldwater objected to the government telling private buisness what to do, that’s still a libertarian policy and has nothing to do with race.
    
    Why am I wasting my time interacting with a disingenuous bad faith liar? Look at where the racists are gathered. Read an actual article on Southern Strategy if you want to know why Repub voters and Repub leadership are majority racist.
    
    Your inability to articulate or defend your claim comes down to a lack of evidence. You argument has mostly been go look it up it will totally support my claim. It hasn’t which it why every piece of evidence you’ve provided has been worthless.
    
    You haven’t been able to show any evidence of racists dem voters switching parties, I’ve shown their elected leaders kept representing their racists Democrat constituents.
    
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