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nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 5 months agoMost sources indicate that it’s about turkey noises.
www.etymonline.com/word/gobbledygook
Comment on Anon makes up a word
nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 5 months agoMost sources indicate that it’s about turkey noises.
www.etymonline.com/word/gobbledygook
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Ah yes, gobble is turkey sounds. Where, in those sources, does the etymology of the rest of the word get examined?
Nowhere, except by ‘elephant in the room’ inference: “first used by Texas politician Maury Maverick (1895-1954), … chairman of U.S. Smaller War Plants Corporation during World War II”
Hmm.
“so prevalent was the use of the word gook during the first few months of the war that U.S. General Douglas MacArthur banned its use, for fear that Asians would become alienated to the United Nations Command because of the insult.” [wikipedia]
Hmmmmmm.
“In modern U.S. usage, “gook” refers particularly to communist soldiers during the Vietnam War and has also been used towards all Vietnamese and at other times to all Southeast Asians in general. It is considered to be highly offensive.” [wikipedia]
It’s not complicated or obscure. No need to whitewash this. Anyone early genX or older will remember.
nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
I mean, sure? I know about “gook” and the timing does seem to work for your theory. I don’t think the connection is as obvious as you do. I don’t see sources for that part of it. A lot of other slurs are very thoroughly documented, including “gook” as a standalone. But if people find it offensive, easy enough to stop using it.
I want to thank you genuinely for making the point but also you’re being pretty rude so I think I’m not going to continue with this discussion.
Phoeniqz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
According to wikipedia:
Please do a better research next time before writing an reply about some other word and making up causations where there are just correlations
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I actually remain unconvinced by the non-scholarly sources people are providing, authoritatively claiming etymology on scant evidence, and believe they are relying on the self-reported motives of Maverick.
‘Gook’ is only generally used as a slur, and other uses are obsolete by a century or extremely regional and rare. In 1944 the slur was the predominant usage, particularly around Maverick.
Do you have a more authoritative source?