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Distant_Foreground@lemm.ee 4 months agoMaybe thinking it’s okay to murder someone and burn down a school for telling people not to vote is a very fascist position.
I’m not American and have no dog in this fight but it’s fascinating to see it unfold and how blindly fanatical and willfully ignorant both sides can be.
If a Rep punches a Dem they’ll justify it as self defense or something. If a Dem punches a Rep it’s “okay to punch a Nazi”. Even seeing how both sides interpreted the presidential debate was ridiculous. Reps ignoring all of Trump’s lies and inability to give a direct answer to a question and a lot of the more fanatical Dems willfully ignoring Biden’s obviously declining mental state.
Reps caught up in a cult of personality and Dems willing to vote for anybody that isn’t Trump. It’s quite scary to see how easily each side can dehumanise the other while thinking they’re correct and morally superior.
The way both sides pardon their own calls to violence can’t lead to anything good. If ‘the other’ said or did something you consider to be completely heinous and you’d justify it or praise it were the roles reversed then maybe introspection is in order.
Of course violence is sometimes necessary but there seems to be growing bloodthirstiness from the extremes of the Left and the Right and I fear what might happen in November.
I’m sure I’ll be downvoted to fuck but that’s just an apolitical outsider’s perspective.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
You’re simply making more bad faith arguments. The post was clearly hyperbole, but using violence is probably a reasonable response to actual fascism.
You can’t “both sides” this. Both sides are evil, but one side is an existential threat to democracy. One side has demonstrated its not going to play by the rules and is fine breaking the norms that many checks and balances relied on.
On one side some voters are extreme. On the other side, some politicians are extreme.
One side has already tried to undermine democracy and actually met with some success and no repercussions.
It’s not the same, and to call it the same is done in bad faith.
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 4 months ago
the didn’t say they’re the same
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Then they shouldn’t try to both-sides the argument.
Nobody is defending Biden. He is just less evil than Trump, and far less of a risk to what little democracy remains. The bar is on the floor.
I might actually agree with ballot spoiling if one of the candidates wasn’t actively trying to replace democracy, and also teaching other populist extremist leaders around the world how to do the same there.