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goldenlocks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

In 2024, thanks to your heroic efforts, the green party candidate gets 36.2% of the vote and Biden gets 17.1%, but oh no – Trump wins by a landslide because Trump supporters, who care not for your left-of-center politics, stuck by their guy and gave him 46% of the vote again, and in first-past-the-post voting, that’s all that matters! Your heroic efforts to get your message out about your better candidate only resulted in splitting the vote and ensuring Trump would win!

This would be the greatest accomplishment for the working class in American history if it happened. The Greens would then start to win congressional seats, and being the process of taking over the government just like the Morena party just did in Mexico.

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AVincentInSpace@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s also completely impossible. A campaign that could convince two thirds of Biden voters to switch would shatter every record for a grassroots campaign (heck, even a corporate backed campaign) that had ever been set. You are not going to convince a statistically significant number of people to switch their vote, especially not between now and November.

I also feel like you’re missing the part where even if you DID accomplish that, Trump would still win the presidency! If you vote third party you might as well not vote!

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- goldenlocks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  It’s also completely impossible. A campaign that could convince two thirds of Biden voters to switch would shatter every record for a grassroots campaign (heck, even a corporate backed campaign) that had ever been set, by orders of magnitude. You are not going to convince a statistically significant number of people to switch their vote, especially not between now and November.
  
  You’re the one that made this ridiculous argument in the first place. I am expressing democracy by supporting and growing the party I agree with the most.
  
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  - AVincentInSpace@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I came up with a ridiculous, hyperbolic example that would still result in a victory for Trump to demonstrate that no amount of effort from third party voters would sway the election, even if they could all agree on who the best third party candidate was. Apparently hardcore leftists are so dense you thought I was saying it could actually happen.
    
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    goldenlocks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You’re the reason Trump is winning, because you refused to criticize Biden and the Dems, and not grow another party as an option.
    
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