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Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Wow, what a miss you took.

I hope that didn’t take you a long time.

Your argument for the colonization is that the Palestinian settlements is even smaller than it appears to be on the map.

So people only own the land of the country they’re standing directly upon?

You should go argue that to literally any country in the world where that is not correct.

However,

That’s exactly what the Israeli government is arguing as the reason it’s okay for them to continue to illegally colonize Palestine.

It’s also not true, but you don’t seem very concerned with the truth.

As for pretending to read the article incorrectly so that you can argue against it, that’s just you arguing against yourself.

Not super relevant.

Your arguments;

  1. Nope, you made that up and it is not relevant to the amount of land that Israel has illegally annexed from Palestine.

  2. Colors are propaganda: doubtful, and it is not relevant to the amount of land that Israel has illegally annexed from Palestine for the past 70 years

  3. Nope, the first map details the settlement area of the Palestinian people. Again, you can look at border maps for many countries, you’ll be shocked that people are not standing on every square inch of their country. Your argument here also is not relevant to the amount of land that Israel has illegally annexed from Palestine for the past 70 years.

  4. Colors(you already did this) are not relevant to the amount of land that Israel has illegally annex from Palestine for the past 70 years.

  5. “It’s not stealing land because fewer countries recognized Palestine as a country then.”

I mean…Taiwan…

Actually I’ll explain this because it doesn’t seem like you understand much about national politics. Or geography. Or colonization.

145 countries recognize Palestine as a country.

A dozen (12, for you) countries recognized Taiwan as a country

If Taiwan gets annexed by China, it’s still going to be a country being annexed(land being stolen) by China, even if not everybody is willing to recognize Taiwan as a country yet.

Also, pretty irrelevant to the amount of land that Israel has illegally annexed from Palestine for the past 70 years.

  1. Is this “argument” also a basic misunderstanding by you of politics and geography? No! It’s a tacit statement of approval of you for Israel annexing a bunch of land.

Greeeeat.

All you’re doing here is arguing that Russia, annexing Crimea and trying to annex Ukraine is totally just because they want it.

  1. Palestinians didn’t lose as much land for a couple decades as they did the other 50 years.

It’s as if… This statement is irrelevant to the amount of land that Israel has a legally annexed from Palestine for the past 70 years.

Not a shocker, but still.

And 8. The most bizarre argument. There’s no source for this map?

Like, how do you get such s basic thing incorrect? Do you even know how search engines work?

Here’s a bunch of sources for that map, even with different colors for your weird color fetish.

You’ll have to come up with all new reasons why these different colors scare you.

visualizingpalestine.org/…/http-visualizingpalest…

www.palestineportal.org/…/maps-loss-of-land/

researchgate.net/…/Figure-1-Showing-the-Loss-of-t…

Here’s one on your side, they used different colors and swear that the map is wrong;

…org.au/…/disappearing-palestine-the-maps-that-li…

Unfortunately, their “correct” maps begin and end in the exact same place and still highlight disappearing Palestinian territory, and they don’t even include the illegal settlements by Israeli civilians.

My answer completely and credibly answers your question:

Israel made that disingenuous 2005 statement because they knew they didn’t have to give any land back to Palestine, because they knew that Israeli civilian settlers would continue to annex Palestine, and because it would make people like you believe that they stopped colonizing Palestine, contrary to all of the evidence of continued Israeli settlement of Palestinian land in the ensuing years.

Including right now.

Where they are colonizing Palestine and putting up residential neighborhoods.

That’s in the sources from my previous comment that you seem a bit wary to mention.

Here’s the BBC reporting on the continued illegal Israeli settlement of Palestine.

www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68490034

Here’s the times of Israel, proudly declaring their intent to illegally settle Palestinian land, sanctioned by the defense ministry.

timesofisrael.com/government-panel-greenlights-ne…

Here’s PBS, describing Israel planning to illegally annexed and colonize Palestine:

pbs.org/…/israel-plans-to-build-3300-new-settleme…

Here’s Reuters describing The ongoing illegal annexation and settlement of Palestine by Israel:

reuters.com/…/israel-advances-peak-number-west-ba…

Go ahead, please try to explain how all of these sources, including Israel and their ministry of defense stating that they are going to annex Palestine, are just kidding about the illegal annexation of Palestine.

Your argument that the colors are wrong has nothing to do with the number of times Israel has invaded, razed, annexed and colonized Palestine, nor with the amount of civilians it’s executed or with schools, hospitals it’s bombed.

That was a pretty fun victory lap for me.

Keep swinging though, I like dancing on laurels

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