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• Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Maybe other artists should do that too. Art isn’t built from nothing but the sheer magical creativity of the artist. If that were true we’d have Sistine cave paintings instead of the finger painting we currently have in prehistoric caves. Inspiration, is in fact, a thing.

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  • mindlesscrollyparrot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Inspiration is absolutely a thing. When Constable and Cezanne sat at their easels, a large part of their inspiration was Nature. When Picasso invented Cubism, he was reacting to tradition, not following it. There are also artists like Alfred Wallis, who are very unconnected to tradition.

    I think your final sentence is actually trying to say that we have advances in tools, not inspiration, since the Lascaux caves are easily on a par with the Sistine Chapel if you allow for the technology? And that AI is simply a new tool? That may be, but does the artist using this new tool control which images it was trained on? Do they even know? Can they even know?

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    • jarfil@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      does the artist using this new tool control which images it was trained on? Do they even know? Can they even know?

      I’ve spent every summer vacation in my teens traveling Europe with my parents, going to every church, monument, art museum, cave, etc. available. I had no control over the thousands upon thousands of images I was trained on. I definitely don’t know which images I’ve seen and which not, and would have a really hard time knowing.

      If I now make a painting, am I less of an artist for it?

      We’ve had a ton of advances in inspiration. Artists constantly get inspired by the works of those before them, whether to repeat or to break up with previous styles. Nowadays you can even do it online… which is exactly what all these AIs have done.

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      • mindlesscrollyparrot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you make a painting now, it wouldn’t be based on those thousands and thousands of paintings since, although you have seen them, you apparently do not remember them. But, if you did, and you made a painting based on one, and did not acknowledge it, you would indeed be a bad artist.

        The bad part about using the art of the past is not copying. The problem is plagiarism.

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      • Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah and what is the first thing they teach you in art school? History. From day one you’re studying the works of other artists and its implications. How they managed to make an impact on the viewers and how it inspires you. Then we produce output that’s judged by our teachers on a scale and we use that as weighted training data.

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