Comment on Cop busted for unauthorized use of Clearview AI facial recognition resigns

ninjaphysics@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• mozz@mbin.grits.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  100% agree with this

  I should make clear I am not an ACAB person by any means. The whole mentality that the police are automatically the enemy makes just as little sense to me as that the police are never the enemy.

  But no one in the world should simply have unaccountable power. Body cams, judicial oversight, warrants, charges when they abuse their power, get rid of police unions or anything else that makes it difficult for a department to fire an officer who they feel is causing problems. Just like some percentage of non police people do bad stuff and we need a system to watch them and try to protect everyone else from them, we need it 10 times more for police people.

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  • electric_nan@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s what ACAB means though. You cannot trust cops, because there’s no real accountability for them. Why is there no accountability? Because their colleagues lie for them, their bosses lie for them, the prosecutors decline to prosecute them, judges trust them implicitly, their unions intimidate mayors and lobby politicians for more funding, tougher laws (for non-cops) and less accountability for themselves.

    The system is so fucked up that reforming it seems like a waste of time. Actual “good cops” get squeezed out or worse. You might as well assume that ACAB, because the stakes are too high to assume otherwise.

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  • TachyonTele@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I completely agree with you. They need to be made accountable.
    That’s the real root of the problem. ACAB/defund/whatever, if they were actually held accountable for their insane actions a lot of the problems would go away.

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    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah. The frustrating thing is that the blanket "defund the police" attitude actually makes the problem of department-hopping bad cops, or tolerance for bad behavior by cops, worse a lot of the time, by starving departments of resources which makes it harder to hire as many cops as they need which makes them more desperate for employees and makes it harder to be selective about who they employ.

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      • hydroptic@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The way I’ve understood the “defund the police” movement’s point is that they’re saying police funding is excessive because a lot of the things cops do should be handled before the cops have to get involved, eg. with higher funding for mental health and social services

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