Comment on Federal Coalition commits to dumping 2030 climate target as it pursues nuclear power
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
To have any chnave we have to engage in demand destruction. There are NO solutions involving growing the economy, we’ll fuck around trying though and make it much worse
It doesnt have to mean a shitty life, it does.mean a differnt life eg no car and cycle and PT means no car costs, denser quieter cities, large houses banned, small really well insulated homes only, less deaths from car polluton etc. We need to ban flying, close airports etc
All we’re doing now is greenwashed nonsense and blah blah blah. At mimum we should be building no more roads and only funding e trains and e bus lanes etc
We’ve barley started with planned withdrawal from coast lines.
We either crash the economy (preferably equitably) or we collapse civilisation, were out of choices, we have left it to long. Neither the ALP nor the LNO are up to the task but that’s on voters supporting those assholes.
vipaal@aussie.zone 5 months ago
Probably simple, whilst incredibly difficult. We can begin with removing
by-products
andside effects
and every last synonym of the two from our vocabulary.Coal and gas energy comes with green house gases which we conveniently called side effects and ignored. Only those side effects have grown exponentially to haunt us.
Nuclear energy comes with the question of nuclear waste.
No idea about what solar panels and wind turbines come with.
Every energy generation endeavour is an all or none, take it or leave it deal. Unless our culture accepts this, incredibly difficult.
Incredibly difficult because every listed business is required by law to grow at all costs and deliver profits and growths to the shareholders. Who has the backbone to put a strict speed limit on profits and growths? How do we police the speeds of business growths? Or how and where do we start?
More incredibly difficult because of sustained campaigns such as
individual carbon footprint
with backing from some of the deepest pockets.While on the topic of side effects and by products, another huge elephant in the room is the agriculture industry. I think we can leave it for another discussion.