Comment on Turtle Shells

• PrimeErective@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean yes, no one, human or turtle, can survive without the ecosystem of the earth, so you could really argue that the planet is the true organism and we are simply byproducts of its existence

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  • lowleveldata@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yet you won’t argue that you are earth. Why would you argue that a turtle is the same as a turtle’s shell then?

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    • PrimeErective@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Where can you really draw the line? Could you survive in space without any air or equipment? Even if you could, where did the equipment and air come from?

      Photosynthetic organisms are for all practical purposes part of your lungs

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      • lowleveldata@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Me needing something doesn’t make that thing me, right? I need the sun to survive but neither the sun is part of me / I am part of the sun. Like, are you your skeleton? What about the other parts that are not bones then?

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• Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can bring extra air and survive just fine.

  You can’t bring an extra skull.

  Likewise, a hermit crab can bring an extra shell, but a turtle cannot bring an extra shell.

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