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naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks agoWhat determines what choices you want to make? What determines your ability to exercise agency? what determines your values?
You’re looking at people who sit around a table, get dealt a hand of cards, have randomly assigned levels of skill and then after everyone has played their hands you’re trying to argue luck wasn’t what determined how people scored…
Ilandar@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Again, please refer to that same comment. I have already addressed the determinist view. If you think you have zero control over your life and everything was set in stone before you were even born, good for you. To me, that is a nihilistic, fatalistic and defeatist approach to life that will only further entrench any inherent disadvantage one suffers.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
ahhhhhhhhhh you’re so obtuse.
The ability and desire for people to make certain choices, whether or not you think those choices are deterministic, is fucking determined before you even properly exist.
you cannot play a 4 if don’t have one in hand no matter how much you might wish to. Accepting that is not coming down for or against determinism. Are you thick?
Ilandar@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
You’ve just made a determinist argument and then immediately claimed that this does not indicate you believe in determinism. I’m not sure I can help you here; some education and introspection is sorely needed on your part.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
🙄 There are positions between radical freedom and behaviourism.
If I break your legs you can’t choose to walk, whether or not you have a self causing free will.