Comment on Pay Day with demographer Liz Allen: 'Poverty grants perspective that can never be bought'

• Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But 7 children doesn’t influence your geographical location, the quality of your education, your skin colour, the quality of your parents’ education, your familial wealth, your health, the stability of your home life, your gender, your health, the job opportunities upon attaining your majority etc etc etc.

  I never said it did. Please refer to my previous reply:

  I am not arguing that the only thing that dictates wealth are the decisions of the individual.

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  • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What determines what choices you want to make? What determines your ability to exercise agency? what determines your values?

    You’re looking at people who sit around a table, get dealt a hand of cards, have randomly assigned levels of skill and then after everyone has played their hands you’re trying to argue luck wasn’t what determined how people scored…

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    • Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Again, please refer to that same comment. I have already addressed the determinist view. If you think you have zero control over your life and everything was set in stone before you were even born, good for you. To me, that is a nihilistic, fatalistic and defeatist approach to life that will only further entrench any inherent disadvantage one suffers.

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      • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ahhhhhhhhhh you’re so obtuse.

        The ability and desire for people to make certain choices, whether or not you think those choices are deterministic, is fucking determined before you even properly exist.

        you cannot play a 4 if don’t have one in hand no matter how much you might wish to. Accepting that is not coming down for or against determinism. Are you thick?

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