This. The other options just sound like you aren’t a native English speaker (which is fine, but not something a native speaker would ever say).
Comment on Word meaning health-related?
AngryHippy@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
These products (have been determined to) have environmental, economical, and health risks.
There isn’t really a word in common usage in English that means “with respect to the matter of ones health” that can be used in that construction,so you end up with passive voice statements.
yenahmik@lemmy.world 10 months ago
3laws@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Why are people so fixated on common usage? Modern linguistics have pointed out that as long as you use a word that fits your needs, nothing should be shut down as “incorrect” (I know you are not saying it is, I’m not coming at you).
In Spanish there’s salubridad and sanidad and before making this comment I thought there was no word for it in English and turns out salubriousness exists.
Anyway, it still doesn’t really fit that much. But useful nonetheless.
AngryHippy@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
People are fixated on common usage because it’s common, and therefore, by definition, most likely to be unambiguously understood by the largest number of speakers.
The rest of this is in the spirit of modern linguistic nerdiness:
If there is a common word, it should be preferred over uncommon words simply for ease of communication. It is much more common in the English speaking world to say “a tour bus” for a bus that goes around a city near the sights to be seen, and while “a touristic bus” might be a perfectly acceptable synonym, it is less common.
The same holds for “salubrious”. While by dictionary standards it might be the best option, it isn’t that common, and most people would say “healthiness” or “wholesomeness” for salubridad and “sanitariness” or “healthfulness” for sanidad.
Source: USian immigrant to Spain married to a filología inglesa / translator
3laws@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This is pretty accurate, however we are not considering context, which is very important, it (context) defines what’s common and what’s not. AFAIK healthiness may not even be common in OPs case giving their hesitation to use it in the first place, I’d also argue that “salubrious” is less ambiguous. BUT, precedents are also relevant and “health benefits/risks” have a huge precedent in this case.
Ah I see, a man of culture. I personally like Statetian more eve tho it also applies for my country the United States of Mexico.
I think you meant filologa(?)
AngryHippy@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Another reason that English speakers talk about common usage is the ridiculous number of words in the language:
The RAE contains something like 93k words, including all the americanismos.
The Oxford English Dictionary contains roughly 470k words, and estimates that only 170k of those are in common current usage. So there are VASTLY more words in the English dictionary than most English speakers have ever even heard, much less could use properly. I didn’t know that the word touristic existed in English until ai moved to Spain, for instance.
So for English speakers, getting down to the 100k or so most used words means ignoring 80% of our dictionary. So when we say something isn’t common usage we really mean something between “no one has used that word in 60 years” and “I had to go look up if that even WAS an English word”.