Comment on Anon figures out how dieting works
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoI agree, its not magic. Its you making up numbers and refusing to accept that glycogen exists. Probably because you don’t know anything about it while massively over estimating your knowledge of bio chem.
Its not 80 - 140. Its like 5 -10 at best. Again, you epically over estimate the calorie burning effect of excersise, above bass rate, that cardio does. Its why its called cardiovascular and not weight loss excersise, just fyi, due to the fundamental lack of evidence proving it to cause weight loss. Funny that…
I mean, you might have a point, if insulin and glucagon didn’t exist. However, they do. So, that ends that really. Well, it does it you understand metabolism.
There is also evidence to support the notion that individuals who are less physically active are more likely to gain weight over time than those who exercise between 150 and 300 min/week
Doesn’t mean exceraise makes people lose weight. It could also mean people who do no excersise often eat more too. They would have said this in their report themselves. Dont just read what you want to from things.
Although exercise contributes to multiple health benefits, and most of the research suggests that it can play a role in both short- and long-term weight loss and weight maintenance, patients often have a difficult time engaging in a regular exercise program and continuing that program as a lifestyle modification.
It CAN, as in, in their opinion some of the research potentially could indicate that. But its not conclusive, as I keep saying. You just read what you wanted from that.
Consistently performing exercise of a duratio er than the basic recommendations for health (150 min/week of moderate-intensity exercise) does appear to be more likely to contribute to weight loss and weight maintenance efforts over the long term
So, again, one that might “appear” to maybe actually agree with you and you ignored all the rest. Well the ones you didn’t choose to missread that is.
Even then, they’re very tentative and say its more likely, not something like “the evidence shows”, as the evidence does show that. Again again, this so far beyond confirmation bias. If you want to die on this hill of no evidence and feeling like you can out run bad diet (which would have to be true, if it worked to way you’re claiming it does), then more fool you.
Its not magic but it would be, if it worked how you seem to think it does. Behold, the magical persistence hunters who evolved to be able to run themselves to a starvation induced death.
You can’t argue with that kind of “logic.”
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
5 to 10?
Really?
acefitness.org/…/how-many-calories-do-you-burn-ru….
5 to freaking 10???
Guess you haven’t done any exercise in a while buddy!
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Above bass rate metabolism, yes. They didn’t adjust the data for that and you didn’t bother to consider what was being said to you.
I hit the gym regularly, pal! Even then, me going or not has no bearing on this. Youre just being silly now.
This is just hilarious. If you look at reference 7, what they’re quoting, you’ll see its about stopping muscle atrophy in people in people on calorie reduced diets. They used resistance training to keep the weight up, via stopping muscle atrophy.
And, again, you choose to ignore the bits you don’t like:
Like I said, its little to no effect. Its just BS pushed by food lobby groups and people who don’t understand bio chem.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
2400 calories a day, that’s 100 an hour
I don’t know the speed at which you jog but at 6 miles an hour let’s say 600 calories an hour based on what I shared so you’re telling me that what you believe is that the real impact is 5 to 10 per mile instead, let’s be generous and it’s actually 60 calories that those 6 miles added to your energy expenditure so that’s 540 calories burnt during that hour + the 60 extra.
Are you implying that your energy usage per hour now goes
2460 for the day, 600 burnt in an hour, 1860 for the rest of the day so you’re suddenly burning 80 calories an hour the rest of the day instead of 100 like you would if you didn’t exercise? You realize how this makes no fucking sense and there’s no reputable sources that would agree with you?
“I hit the gym regularly pal!” Yeah, and you’re falling for gym bro science buddy.
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Again, not 100 calories above bass rate. Its not hard. You just have to accept that you’re fundamentally wrong, as the data shows. I’ll make it easier, its not 100 calories over what you burn, just to stay alive.
Based on the data you completely misssunderstood, we could “prove” almost anything.
Pretty much, thats why the only data that you think agrees with you had to be wildly misread. We are incredibly efficient at moving while preserving energy, hence the whole persistence hunters thing you keep trying to ignore, despite its obvious effects on our metabolic pathways and this discussion.
Lol, so, if I don’t go to the gym, I don’t know how excersise works but if I do, I’m only speaking gym science. Youre hilarious! You didn’t even know what glycogen was. Behave yourself. I know you didn’t because all the people that do know what it is don’t beleive the baseless old wives tale you beleive. I won’t go any deeper than gymbro science because you clearly can’t understand anything deeper than that.
Let’s pretend you weren’t wildly misreading what they said, even then, this is about weight loss and inducing fat metabolising pathways. Youre struggling on the calories part alone and we haven’t even got the the metabolic pathways that also don’t agree with you.
Theres a reason you had to reach so far and look so long for something you had to misread, in order to argue you point.