Comment on Anon figures out how dieting works

Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You don’t need to have a level 200 IQ or 20 years experience to work out that eating less is going to help with weight loss.

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah but there’s a whole bunch of people who can’t understand that increasing the number of calories you burn achieves the same effect.

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    • sushibowl@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not quite the same result, exercise has a whole host of health benefits aside from just the weight loss.

      On the other hand, for most people, given a calorie deficit target, it is often much, much easier to eat less than burn more.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        From a weight and calories perspective only the result is the same.

        Also, dieticians would disagree with you and that’s the reason why they put much more emphasis on starting with healthy life habits first and foremost instead of reducing calories, long term one sticks the other doesn’t because it’s the difference between making your life better vs making yourself miserable.

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    • 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Whilst what you’re saying is true, it’s important to recognise that you can’t out run a terrible diet.

      You could eat well all week and run ten miles a day and then completely ruin it by eating and drinking 20,000 calories at the weekend.

      To put it simply, it doesn’t matter if you burn an amazing 5000 calories a day if you’re consuming 5500 calories.

      95% of losing weight is simply eating less, there’s absolutely no need to complicate it by telling people they must radically change their diet or that they need to dedicate themselves to regimented exercise.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        In this case you’re not eating the same as you were before so it doesn’t apply to what I’m saying.

        If you are eating the same as before and your weight was stable then and you add exercise to the mix then you’re going to lose weight, there’s no magic to it, it’s mathematics. If you were going to “cheat” like I’m your example then without exercise you would have gained weight so you still effectively lost weight by exercising.

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    • undergroundoverground@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The evidence linking excersise alone with weight loss is sketchy at best and rarely is there any significant difference between combined diet and excerise groups and diet-alone groups. Excersise alone rarely, if ever, shows any significant difference in weight loss.

      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5556592/

      Theres a reason people say “you can’t out run a bad diet” and there’s a reason its called “cardiovascular” and not “weight loss” excersise.

      The idea that you could out run a bad diet was pushed by food lobby groups who wanted people to eat more than they need to, under the pretence that they can excersise it off later.

      We evolved as persistence hunters. As such, the pathway for excersise induced fat burning is greatly inhibited, so as to not be able to run yourself to death trying to get food.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Reading it they make it clear that it’s because people end up eating more than they did before which isn’t what I’m talking about.

        By your logic there’s no reason why athletes need to eat so much, their caloric needs should pretty much stay the same, as if they didn’t exercise.

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