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TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 weeks agoThere’s nothing wrong with going against the status quo. It’s when you let the anti-establishment narrative supersede facts that we have a problem. This guy defended the Jan 6 riots on extremely flimsy ground (his thesis falls in line with the rest of conservatives: that it was a peaceful demonstration that got out of hand). Not only that, but he goes to bat for Trump pretty often, of all people. It’s par the course for the rest of the anti-establishment enlightened centrists (see Pin Tool and the likes). Not impressed.
jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Seems that is what the status quo and legacy media was saying about other protests going on in the past and currently, just take a look at Black Lives Matter and Anti-Genocide protests.
Major difference is that social media has had a great impact against what the propaganda machine tries to push, but do not forget, these are also being censored by gov’t and the owner class to a certain degree.
He is going after specifics not only just because he is Trump… I would take another look at what he was explaining when talking about Trump.
Many of his points will be push back at the general propaganda and smears our politicians and legacy media is enforcing on us so as to try to sway the working class toward the status quo.
That is why there is an increase of people that do not believe anything that politicians or legacy media spews to the working class.
Not too sure what you mean by this or the people you meantioned?
Enlighten centrists, not sure how he would fit that label…
Here are some videos about Glenn, seems to still be keeping his morals till this day as well.
Glenn Greenwald: Media “tragically vindicated” Trump by overhyping Russiagate [03:47 | Mar 25 19 | Democracy Now!] youtu.be/qdYw6jk3TTA
Glenn Greenwald on Trump-Russia Probe: Be Skeptical of Spy Agencies with History of Lying & Deceit [11:11 | JHan 02 18 | Democracy Now!] youtu.be/AYq67tTf0KY
TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Anytime someone equivocates between Jan 6 and BLM -or any other riots for that matter- it makes me lose all respect for them. There was damage from BLM protests, sure. But Jan 6 was a violent insurrection into what is the most important day in our electoral process: the day when the peaceful transfer of power is meant to occur and anyone trying to draw parallels between that and BLM rioters is actively engaged in subverting our democracy. You can whine about media obfuscation all day long, but we all saw the video footage and we all knew what day of the year it was.
Yeah, the anti-establishment schtick is getting old. Glenn is part of the fraternity of ultimate skeptics -when it’s convenient, of course. And frankly, the theatrics are getting old. Not interested.
jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yes, I also saw what legacy media release and what other independent media release.
Similar to all protests the people breaking the law are to be punished and all that, in any protests, usually they are a really some percentage of these people comparting it to the sizes of the protest.
Not sure what you mean by this… it may just be our political bubbles that make it difficult to understand each other at a quick matter and just with a few replies and comments.
I do not support or am a part of the duopoly, so that will also differ a lot on how we view gov’t and the people that control our politicians, the owner class.
I am more of a revolutionary than a reformist, so that is a major difference we have.
In a simple to understand and basic outline, I see Jan. 06 event, IMO, as an unorganized riot similar to when a certain sports team losses and they go ham at what is near by.
Few or little of the protestors were openly showing their 2A given rights, compared to how the Black Panther Parties would be in the presence of police and and gov’t dogs that do their bidding.
The Black Panther Party is a greater group I would align to then the unorganized Jan. 06 riots and gov’t backlash.
Sadly, the Black Panthers and many great activists that fight against the status quo are killed or under great surveillance by our fascist government and police state.
TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
No, they were not a “small percentage” of individuals that got violent. Nice try.
They were there expressly there to stop the count of the electoral votes cast while Trump and his cronies orchestrated false slate of electors at the ready to replace the votes in several states. Also, let me repeat, because I don’t think it’s sinking in: These were not some disenfranchised activists on a random protest. They were there on the most important day of the year during the most critical part of the electoral process: the peaceful transfer of power. During this whole time, Trump resisted calling in the national guard so that his false slate of electors could pass through and overturn the vote. That’s who Glenn is defending.
I’m not engaging any more with your walls of text. No one gives a fuck if you’re a revolutionary. It’s clear you’re here with some kind of agenda because your rambling is not addressing any of the points I’m making and you seem more interested in giving a speech.