Comment on Is saying "Don't need to know hebrew to know the Holocaust was bad" antisemetic?

• Quatity_Control@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not anti Semitic and even worse, it was a deft destruction of a gatekeeping argument.

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• xantoxis@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Agree with Quality_Control, this is an apt comparison and not anti-semitic.

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• chaircat@lemdro.id ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ll go against the grain here and say I do think it’s antisemitic, for precisely the reason outlined in the parent comment, even though they themselves are also giving you a pass.

  The genocide against the Jews, the Holocaust, was a situation where they were rounding up every single member of the ethnicity they could find in order to exterminate them.

  Even though we use the same word genocide for the Uighurs, no credible authority I’ve ever come across is alleging that is what is happening in Xinjiang. Uighurs still openly populate the province and roam the streets publicly.

  To compare them like this is to directly downplay the Holocaust in order to make a point on the Uighurs. In fact, I’d also say the widespread use of the word genocide for the Uighurs is the same, for reasons we’re seeing from the reactions of everyone else in this thread.

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  • Jaytreeman@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I'm going to assume that you mean well, but aren't well informed on this subject.

    Genocide isn't just about killing people. It's about destroying a people. The best example I know is how Canada treated/treats indigenous peoples.

    Forced sterilization and children removed from their culture are two ways that these peoples have been decimated.

    The Canadian genocide against the indigenous peoples has been recognized by multiple governments and falls within the common definition.

    The genocide during the Holocaust was immediate and violent like a bomb. The Canadian genocide is a slow burn like a forest fire.

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    • chaircat@lemdro.id ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s fair as a definition of genocide, though it isn’t the way I’m used to understanding the word.

      Precisely because of the differences though, I’d also find it in poor taste to make comparisons been the Canadian genocide against indigenous peoples and the Holocaust.

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