Disclaimer: I’m not a lawyer
DAMNIT MAN, i already filed the lawsuit and put your name on top as a reference
Comment on higher wages for the servers... by the customers. Fnbs
krnl386@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I bet legally, the establishment owners aren’t required to give “service charges” to their staff the same way they are required to give 100% of the tips…
This is some shady shit, IMO.
I’m not a lawyer, though, so if someone here that knows the law could comment on “service charges” vs. “tips” in this context, I would love to know.
theodewere@kbin.social 10 months ago
Nougat@kbin.social 10 months ago
The word that should be there is "gratuity." I'm quite sure you're right, and I know there are horrible owners for sure, but I would have to think it would be impossible for a restaurant nice enough to charge $22.50 for a mini plate of pasta to retain good servers if they did that. Restaurant owners who operate fancy high-priced places would have more sense than to alienate their salespeople.
krnl386@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
It’s LA, so I assume there are plenty of douchy “haute cuisine” wannabe places that charge $50 for a handful of steamed rice served in a styrofoam coffee cup under the name “Riz Derelicte” or some stupid shit like that.
theodewere@kbin.social 10 months ago
what a unique and lovely culture.. and so, specific..
DONTBANTHISACCOUNT@kbin.social 10 months ago
Makes me think 🤔 if I went to a grocery store and they charged me a membership like Costco without actually disclosing it... Sounds like fraud if they don't disclose this service charge / fee at the very beginning... They should have it plastered big all over the place because looks like most of us wouldn't expect something like this...
"Restraunt" food is expensive as it is IMHO, even fast food isn't a great deal unless you buy with a coupon or some 2 burgers deal 🤝... Otherwise it's not worth it... Not to me anyways ... :/
hark@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If only I could simply use a coupon to get a decent price from a fast food place. Nah, instead they all demand that you install a datamining app to maybe get you prices that would’ve been the regular price just a few years ago.
DONTBANTHISACCOUNT@kbin.social 10 months ago
Ye... I hear Ya
Davel23@kbin.social 10 months ago
Looks like a couple of their employees are suing over exactly that.
https://www.latimes.com/food/story/2023-07-03/after-lawsuit-jon-and-vinnys-change-service-fee-language-on-bill
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 months ago
Jesus. They try to be altruistic and say that tip culture isn’t fair (and it’s not), but you know the altruistic thing would be to… Not have tipping then! I’m in Seattle and there are tons of restaurants like this that have a fee, but then tipping is genuinely not allowed, they don’t accept them. Everyone gets a fair wage.
That 18% is definitely not going to the staff.
And for everyone, here’s an idea, why not just make the menu items 18% more expensive and remove the fee altogether??
DONTBANTHISACCOUNT@kbin.social 10 months ago
Tyvm for finding this article!!
" The announcement and change in billing language comes after a Los Angeles Times article published on June 21 about the class-action lawsuit filed in Los Angeles Superior Court against Joint Venture Restaurant Group Inc., which owns Jon & Vinny’s. The workers claim that the company denied them tips and therefore shortchanged them on their take-home pay because of confusion resulting from the 18% service fee.
California’s gratuity law requires that tips be remitted in full to non-managerial service staff. "
SMH ... What a bunch of assholes; screwed their customers and then their staff...