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Oh so if someone says ‘black people are dangerous thugs, I’d rather encounter a bear than a removed’, it’s all good, a black person shouldn’t take it personally? After all, no specific black person is mentioned. Come on, just be a good ally, stfu and nod.

I am willing to bet many, many people wouldn’t be ok with that, and rightfully so. I know I would not.

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redisdead@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The automatic moderation is kind of funny here lmao

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Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
That is, at least to me, is both a bit of a strawman and an invalid comparison.

First: The statement “black people are” implies it applies to all of them, or at least the average person, whereas the sentiment that I usually see isn’t that all men are dangerous but rather that some are and it’s difficult, if not impossible, to know which are beforehand.

Second: Men have not been marginalized, discriminated, and systematically oppressed for centuries. People of color have been, at the very least in the west and the countries they’ve colonized.

There’s an additional point to be made here that I feel is relevant: Ethnicity does not inherently infer a large difference in physical characteristics the same way biological sex does. I don’t imagine the strength of an average person varies as much depending on ethnicity as it does depending on biological sex. The average man is much physically stronger than the average woman, in a physical confrontation she’d be at a distinct disadvantage.

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- redisdead@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  “black people” applies to all black people, but “men” doesn’t apply to all men?
  
  That’s honestly an interesting way of thinking.
  
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  - Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m not sure if you’re trolling or not but “black people are dangerous thugs” is very clearly a racist generalizing statement.
    
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    redisdead@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sorry to ping you again, but I want to run a few other things at you, as I find people with the ability to doublethink without blinking absolutely fascinating.
    
    Let’s say, okay, ‘men’ is vague enough that a single individual man should not feel insulted when someone says they’re so bad they would rather get mauled by a bear, because… Reasons idk.
    
    Is ‘women’ vague enough so that it’s just as fine to say, idk, some stereotypical bullshit like ‘women are weak, dumb, and therefore belong in the kitchen’? Should an individual woman not be annoyed after hearing this? Is it not sexist?
    
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    redisdead@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I never claimed the opposite.
    
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