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• regul@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah but I’m still not clear on what the fear is exactly.

  Like how do you envision it changing your life having China “in charge” vs the US?

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  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I expect they’d treat us like we (the British empire) treated lesser foreign powers. They kind of already do, on the rare occasion they pay attention to little Canada. If they managed to gain direct power here, they’d treat us like the British treated their colonial subjects, or like the Chinese have already treated their westernmost minorities, and you can ask the Natives what that’s like.

    Unlike America, they’re autocratic and openly, officially ethnocentric. That’s bad news for anyone not an elite Chinese person, and in the long term it’s bad news for even them, because purges.

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    • regul@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      they’d treat us like we (the British empire) treated lesser foreign powers

      How’s that? Disadvantageous trade agreements? You already have those.

      What would “direct power” look like? China invades Canada, a country defended by US nukes, with the PLA? There’s a reason Iran and North Korea are still around despite open animus from the US.

      My point is largely that these nebulous fears of “Chinese hegemony” are just that–nebulous. Asking people to drill down into what they’re really afraid of either reveals the status quo or impossible scenarios.

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      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How’s that? Disadvantageous trade agreements? You already have those.

        You know the Brits did worse that that.

        Hell, our trade agreements with the US are fine anyway.

        China invades Canada, a country defended by US nukes, with the PLA? There’s a reason Iran and North Korea are still around despite open animus from the US.

        That assumes the US still has our back, and Iran doesn’t even have nukes, they’re just more trouble than they’re worth. In the long run, nukes only guarantee countries that actually have them, and that’s not us.

        For what it’s worth, if China was a democracy, I’d be fine with them as the new hyperpower. But they’re not, so they are ideological enemies to me.

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