Comment on Funny, those guys don't usually agree on that much

• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Those statements are both true, but: Neoliberalism dominates both political parties in the United States and has for generations. The Democratic Party is also neoliberal, (often in spite of their voters.)

  The Republican Party’s neoliberalism has fostered fascist and christian nationalist factions to the point they may take over.

  The Democratic Party’s stance has been to try and absorb disaffected Republican neoliberal voters from the above.

  Which leaves ‘non-neoliberal American liberals’ with the choice of supporting… well it is and has been a successful right wing strategy to say the least.

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Democratic Party’s stance has been to try and absorb disaffected Republican neoliberal voters from the above.

    That’s a leftist idea that Leftists just made up and are running with due to their own echo chambers. Dems do like capturing centrists, especially now the GOP has gone off the rails, but the coalition is absolutely led by progressives who push progressive policies as much as they can. The theory is to capture disaffected centrists and win them over with clearly superior Democrat policies and positions. Doesn’t always work, but that’s the play. When the Democratic party allows oil leases or higher border funding, it doesn’t do so skipping with joy. It does so reluctantly as part of a compromise to win other gains.

    This is the part where you get out the tin foil hats and claim that despite all evidence to the contrary, Democrats actually secretly want every bad thing ever to happen. Because they’re just that evil.

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    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Dems do like capturing centrists,

      Doesn’t always work, but that’s the play.

      Sure doesn’t. Very strong arguments to my point.

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      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You didn’t even read it did you lol

        Just like “aha, everything you said actually supports me!” like you think it’s some sort of debate uno reverse card

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