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I'm curious if someone will create a Lemmy instance for example that simply has a sitewide rule of don't post anything illegal and which disables blocking

problem is, mods still need to exist to be able to remove legit spam and off topic things, but it could be in a modlog and admin could adjust rogue mods who delete too much stuff

on here the rule is that individual mods can decide who they want to ban, or individuals who they want to block; it's really debateable whether this is a "freer" design or not - it preserves the freedom to dissociate from people, but that also may seem like "censorship"

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goldenballs@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago
How about upvoting and downvoting mods? If a mod is downvoted a lot and its visible they will naturally be shunned.

Back in the day, the point of a mod was not to be a policeman, but to be an MC, because forums and suchlike are meant to be active and sociable, not little fiefdoms for inadequate kittle twats to take their revenge our against the world.

Reddit is more of the latter, full of weird, sad, fuckers.

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- squashkin@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago
  ehhh I think freedom leads to "fiefdoms", if I had a forum I might like to do a "right wing SJW equivalent" one that bans certain immoral content
  
  Problem is, reddit doesn't have freedom, so it only has leftist fiefdoms
  
  On a site like here you could have lefty fiefdoms but then people can create an alternative community, which isn't allowed on certain topics on reddit, so there could be lefty fiefdoms, righty ones, and "open" ones that don't ban as much on either left or right (this was the last idea I was suggesting I wonder if will be created as a sitewide thing)
  
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  - goldenballs@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago
    Doesn't the freeforum fill the gaps that the Default Community can't?
    
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masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago
It could be disabled in code really easily. Like in a day. Its just, if you do that you offer nothing of value that mastodon doesn't already have. Communities would be no different than hashtags.

It also puts to much power and responsibility into admins. I prefer to be mostly hands off. I think that's the best admin style

Even gab allows groups to moderate their members.

The whole link aggregator algorithm relies on the fact that posting is more difficult than reading. 9/10 people never post or comment. They just read other people's stuff.

So by having votes and moderators you delegate the task of curating content.

Its why some people prefer now to search reddit rather than google. You often get better results. You are crowd sourcing brain power.

You need more than one type too. You need shit posting to start on twitter style free posting or 4 Chan. Then it gets picked up by reddit, wolfballs, hacker news type sites. Maybe it ends up on Facebook idk I never go there anymore.

Someone might summarize ideas or culture in a TicToc video.

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- squashkin@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago
  
  mastodon doesn’t already have
  
  It would just be a difference of UI, like isn't mastodon restricted to a few characters like twitter and you can't do long posts or comments?
  
  to much power and responsibility into admins
  
  well to me ultimately decentralization is centralization at a local level, so I'm still putting trust in admins like masterofballs
  
  I have yet to see a completely "trustless" system, like with bitcoin that ended up deviating from the original intent of crypto, so people forked bitcoin cash, then people tried to attack bitcoin cash with bitcoin SV and later bitcoin ABC. Point is, with each fork it required putting trust in like miners and developer teams, even while maybe it was "decentralized".
  
  need more than one type
  
  yeah if there was no community-specfic modding I guess that would be the only difference of here over mastodon, but the different formats and limitations are needed even when a lot of the tech might be the same I guess
  
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- masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago
  Telegram groups are a good example of just non stop un moderated posting.
  
  You open up a group and see 15,000 missed post. Loads of them are just straight up lies. Like
  
  Ron Paul said to take your guns to DC
  
  Image
  
  Its a useful type of social media but not the kinda content organizing I'm looking for.
  
  I would like to build a light weight mastodon like social media service in rust. Just for learning's sake. Just have other priorities ATM.
  
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