Comment on We need to have a serious talk about this instance being federated with Lemmygrad, Hexbear, and tankies in general

czech@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I shouldn’t have to as that costs money. It’s the admin’s job to fix his sub, not mine.

  If he’s a tankie or a supporter of them, he has a responsibility to us to be honest about that fact instead of allowing them to run roughshod and inundate the instance with propaganda. He KNOWS they don’t belong here but he’s ignoring the problem. That means he either is one of them, supports them or is being taken in by them. And that’s a serious problem that will affect the whole federation, not just this one instance.

  If tankies get away with doing that here, they’ll do it to other admins, and poison the whole federation. It’ll be impossible for new instances to flourish without kowtowing to them, and so it has to be stopped here and now with the bigger instances.

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  • czech@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How do you foresee tankies poisoning the whole fediverse? Do you find their arguments compelling? It doesn't even seem like they are trying to make a case, they are just bluntly stating misinformation. If we are going to remove all misinformation then we are going to need paid admins because even at the current scale its a full time job. Or should we only remove certain misinformation? I see blatant misinformation everywhere on the fediverse already and only a tiny percentage is tankie related.

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    • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How do you foresee tankies poisoning the whole fediverse? D

      Because I’ve been watching what has been going on. Instances, big ones, that were previously hard-nosed about being defederated from them have mysteriously let them on their instances again, including this one. I signed up for this instance specifically BECAUSE it banned them, and then all of a sudden, for the past few days, my All feed is inundated with their crap.

      That is shady, sus, and wrong. A lot of people came here specifically to get away from tankies and their garbage, and now we’re expected to put up with it because the admins refuse to act and even let them back on? Explain to me how money, blackmail, intimidation, manipulation or abject retardation isn’t involved in that?

      Or how it won’t happen to other instances once those cretins get a foothold in a big enough percentage of the fediverse?

      It doesn’t even seem like they are trying to make a case, they are just bluntly stating misinformation. If we are going to remove all misinformation then we are going to need paid admins because even at the current scale its a full time job.

      The admin already accepts donations so he has no excuse.

      I see blatant misinformation everywhere on the fediverse already and only a tiny percentage is tankie related.

      You can thank the alt-right dipshits at .world for that, and that’s why I speak out now: unless admins’ feet are held to the fire and they’re held accountable for not protecting their users, it’ll keep getting worse. The admins made an instance they want us to use abd accept donations to keep it running. Therefore they have a responsibility toward us they’re not meeting, and it results in dangerous shit like propaganda claiming the Tianamen Square massacre did not happen to run freely when it should not. That is crazy and you know it

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      • shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I joined this instance because it didn’t censor content based on someone’s opinion

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      • pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        you can always block communities you don’t like yourself.

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      • juliebean@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I signed up for this instance specifically BECAUSE it banned them

        i think you were mistaken. someone correct me if i’m wrong, but i don’t think lemm.ee ever defederated from hexbear, rather, hexbear was defederated from everyone. they quite recently changed that, and lemm.ee users then subsequently joined hexbear communities, which is why you’re now seeing them if you browse by ‘all’.

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    • GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Given how some are complaining that threads is defederated but not the left wing instances, I’m thinking maybe they only have a problem with some forms of disinformation

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