Comment on [Serious] Why do so many people seem to hate veganism?
BugleFingers@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I don’t mind vegans, or that lifestyle, at all. What I do mind is people who are overtly (and possibly aggressive) in presenting a lifestyle that the feel is “right”. Unfortunately there’s a stereo type with vegans being that way.
Veganism is a big lifestyle choice and the difference to vegetarian is the avoidance of near all animal products if and when possible. Not just in regards to eating meat, but things like a leather wallet too.
Someone has to be careful and on top of their diet and dietary needs to be vegan and properly nourished (even omnivorous people are subject to this malnutrition mind you).
I have some personal differences in views to vegans in regards to the consumption of meat, but rather similar views in how it’s obtained. I do think generally the mass production and lifestyle is not morally correct for the animals. However I would also say humans are naturally omnivorous and eating meat is something that not only is built into our diet but what gave us a fundamental evolutionary advantages.
Animals eat animals and humans are animals. Though if we are sentient enough and empathetic enough creatures we should at least provide a decent life for the animals and utilize all we can so as not so waste them.
Kacarott@feddit.de 5 months ago
I respect your viewpoint, but I wanted to point out that I think the argument of “animals do X, therefore it’s ok” isn’t a really good one, imo. In fact I think one of the features of being human is being able to rise above what other animals do, when we think it is a good idea. (Whether it’s a good idea here though, is another topic)
Specal@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I mean I’m vegan and I’ve got nothing against hunters, like they said we’re animals and animals sometimes eat animals. Most vegans are against animal farming as there is no way to do it humanely on a large scale.
I personally wouldn’t eat a hunted animal, right now but if civilization was to fall it’s fair game.
Kacarott@feddit.de 5 months ago
I’m not trying to make a case for or against veganism, or hunting. My point is that “we are animals and animals sometimes do X” implying that makes it ok, is bad logic. Animals also sometimes eat their young, or murder or rape other creatures of the same species.
Now like I said, I’m not arguing against or for veganism here, I think there are good arguments for both sides, I just don’t think that the “we are animals” argument is one of them :)
Specal@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I was agreeing with you against that thinking, sorry if that wasn’t clear