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Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Again, what are you actually protecting yourself on by preventing random sites from seeing your IP?

Information your IP conveys:

Probably what ISP you have
Probably your general location unless you have gone out of your way to have a static IP for your home (in a way that is not just asking/paying your ISP for it)

So unless you have a very non-standard internet set up, it basically lets me know you are in Faketown, New Jersey. Which is not particularly useful information. And likely has already been conveyed to anyone you care about because of the tracking cookie for said Dominos.

The reason why this CAN be an issue and you see streamers block their IPs: DDOS attacks exist. But if you are going to websites that are likely to DDOS the visitors for poops and giggles… maybe consider going to different sites? Or, yeah, that is a use case for tor.

But the idea of putting ALL traffic through tor (just like ALL traffic through a vpn) just… mostly defeats the purpose of it because you are still making a nice and easily tracked “profile”. And it is very clear that site admins can detect what is tor so that they don’t assume you are regularly traveling between Faketown and Luxemburg or whtaever.

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twistypencil@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Sorry, I cannot possibly match your asymmetric post length in my replies. I’ll simply leave it at: I want to use Tor, for a lot of different reasons, not all of them are you going to eventually uncover with your argumentation, because I don’t plan on talking about them, not because they are illegal. If you don’t want to use it, then fine, its not for you.

I do not agree with you that using tor actually compromises you, but if you do, then go ahead and keep believing that. Seemed to work fairly well for Snowden, and quite a lot of others who depend on it daily.

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- Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You have yet to refute a single point and the extent of your argument is “I want it”.
  
  Also, Snowden, really? The guy who got caught and had the Espionage Act thrown at him, fled to Russia, and now lives there until the end of his days? Putting his shit posting and memes through tor isn’t protecting him. Him being more useful to Russia as a political pawn than as currency to give to the US government is what keeps him safe.
  
  But, and I realize this might be hard for you to understand: Tor is incredibly useful for some activities (I even said I suggest it to others in the comments you refuse to read). But the more you do through Tor as “you”, the more of a profile there is which lets anyone who actually cares about you track you down.
  
  Need to blow a whistle: Tor can be a good tool for that. But only if you are doing it from an identity that has never been linked to any of your personal identities AND the data doesn’t contain anything that is identifiable either (that last bit being Snowden’s problem, if I remember correctly).
  
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  - twistypencil@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I suggest you open a post somewhere that is “I dont think people should use Tor” and we can argue that there. This seems fairly off-topic here and I don’t plan on arguing with you about if I should use Tor or not. You can count that as a win if you want, I don’t mind.
    
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    Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Why would I make that post? I have never said that.
    
    All I have done is:
    
    Ask why you want to use Tor to access Lemmy. Clearly the site team block those endpoints because they are common attack sources. You have yet to provide any argument outside of… literally responding to me talking about why you should not trust Lemmy or The Fediverse for anything that a government would care about by… claiming you need to use it because it protects you from the government.
    
    I then made it a point to respond to the FUD you continue to propagate because, by pretending that putting all of your traffic through tor and then connecting to laughably insecure services, you are actively hurting those who actually need to protect their activities by basically telling them something on the level of “Tape a hideakey rock to the bottom of your car”.
    
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