I think declining birth rates are good and should be encouraged.
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AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Just like declining birth rates in the US.
“We need to have more babies! Our population is declining!”
Well we could subsidize child care.
“Fuck you! Oh whatever shall we do?!”
Well we could provide housing programs for people who want to have children.
“Fuck you! Oh we need to think of something.”
Oh, I know, we could subsidize fertility treatments for parents that want children but are having difficulty!
“Fuck you! Oh, woe is me, there’s nothing anyone can do!”
NathanielThomas@lemmy.world 1 year ago
AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I actually agree for the sake of the Earth and humanity long term, if there is such a thing anymore.
I acknowledge though, that it will be very painful for humanity to adjust to downsizing, and in sociopolitical discourse, short medium term humanity is all most ever consider relevant. But yes, I agree with the long game position that humanity should strive to shrink and find equilibrium with our world.
TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s sad to me that we live in a system where growth is the only goal. If the economy only grows by one percent its a crisis. Like what the fuck. I think you don’t have to be a genius to see that infinite growth with finite resources is somehow impossible.
HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Infinite growth is the ideology of a cancer cell
itstoowet@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No no no, don’t you see? The growth MUST continue… Or else
explodicle@local106.com 1 year ago
Left out “we could just let more people move here”
Asafum@feddit.nl 1 year ago
But then
our society wouldn’t be white dominated anymore!our culture! Oh our culture! Demographics! Crime! Ahhhh! Be afraid!orphiebaby@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is Japan too. Very much so right now
SaveComengs@lemmy.federa.net 1 year ago
th japanese stance on the rapid population decline is so fucked lol
AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 year ago
100%
mayo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Definitely not that simple. Immigration is good, but you need the physical and social infrastructure to manage it.
explodicle@local106.com 1 year ago
Why would we need new infrastructure? We’ve had high immigration rates in the past, we could just do that again.
mayo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Think about it… housing, medical care, transportation. These need to keep up with population growth. If growth is achieved through immigration, then you need infrastructure to support more people. I’m in Canada, immigration has been seen as a positive thing for a long time, but there is a resource squeeze right now and increasing immigration is seen as adding fuel to the fire.
We are trying to address those issues, but it would have been a lot better to put infrastructure in place before aiming to increase the population size.
TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I don’t realy see how it’s more expensive to keep a few immigrants alive, who are willing to work and often already have good education, than raising and educating a child for years to come.