You call hostage-taking and destruction of property free speech? lol You are no longer trying to hide terrorism anymore.
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LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And once again when conservatives are confronted with speech they disagree with the response is to demand their arrest.
Almost like they don’t actually value free speech as much as they value controlling their political opponents: those demanding the emancipation of an imprisoned population being starved to death.
It’s a big reason Trump became popular with them: he promised to lock up his political opponent.
Just more fascist trash from people who don’t care to understand the world as it is, so they soak up right-wing propaganda telling them the scary leftists are out ruin “their” country.
Reactionaries want to take away your freedom to stand up to political violence and collective punishment; gee, I wonder why?
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m not going to play your stupid little game.
We all know that you value conformity over collective action like every counterrevolutionary in history.
It’s the whole reason you post sources conflating people protesting the university’s material support of genocide with terrorists.
You are not making any kind of point about political freedom, or protest, or values. Here’s a hint: the students were planning on getting arrested. That’s how civil disobedience works: by making the people who hold power overreact to the collective action, thereby swaying public opinion.
This is a clear win for the protesters, because reactionaries simply cannot help showing their asses, and they must stand against emancipations or their backwards ideology will have to shift further to accommodate the revolutionary ideas that they’re constantly opposing.
It’s so telling that conservatives care more about “property damage” than genocide.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I’m not going to play your stupid little game. It is not a game; you are openly supporting a violent group who are terrorists.
This is a clear win for the protesters, because reactionaries simply cannot help showing their asses, and they must stand against emancipations or their backwards ideology will have to shift further to accommodate the revolutionary ideas that they’re constantly opposing.
This is a clear loss for the terrorists. They were arrested, will face criminal charges, and will most likely be expelled from school.
It’s so telling that conservatives care more about “property damage” than genocide.
We are against terrorism; it’s why we support Israel. I get you support children being murdered and women being raped since they are Jewish, but that is genocide, and it must stop. It is why we support the Israeli government in ending Hamas.
LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Your lies are only convincing to reactionaries who want to prevent emancipations.
You conflate Palestine with Hamas, because you oppose the emancipation of the Palestinian people from the yoke of collective punishment and oppression just like every reactionary counterrevolution would.
You adopt the language of emancipation to appeal to non-reactionaries, but you don’t believe or understand it. Conservatism is a cargo-cult ideology that must constantly react to the emancipatory actions of the left by taking their arguments and twisting them into a macabre parody in defense of the powerful.
jimbolauski@lemm.ee 1 month ago
And once again when conservatives are confronted with speech they disagree with the response is to demand their arrest.
Arresting people who trespass to disrupt classes at a private university is going against free speech?
Arresting people who break into buildings and refuse to let matience workers leave (kidnapping) is going against free speech?
PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Those are questions for you to answer. This community’s conservatives pay lip service to free speech in the absolute sense but abandon it when you disagree.
If you could be honest, where do you draw the line for the expression of free speech?
jimbolauski@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Trespassing on private property to protest is not and should not be protected. It has nothing to do with what they are protesting.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Nor should destruction of property, denying other students access to the campus, breaking and entering, etc.
NY should put their anti-mask law back on the book as well. Let the cowards show their faces.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
If you could be honest, where do you draw the line for the expression of free speech? Nice strawman, but this isn’t about free speech. When is it speech to take over a building, take hostages and tear the building up?
If you call this free speech, you must say that Jan 6th was free speech. At least Jan 6th didn’t have hostages.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Terrorists just want to terrorize.
That is why I didn’t post anything until they grossly violated the law. I support even stupid protests, but once they turn lawless, it’s time to shut them down.
realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social 1 month ago
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen @wintermute_oregon #Vivek did a really good job at pointing out the difference between the pro #Hamas and pro #Palestine campus protests and right wing protests like the truck convoy protests in #Canada
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I have no issues with protesting but I do have an issue with people breaking the law. What the "protestors’ is doing is terrorism.
Anyone who isn’t a citizen should be deported, all students who violate the law should be expelled and criminally prosecuted.
That is how you stop this crap.
realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social 1 month ago
@wintermute_oregon I'd prefer jail to deportation, especially considering the state of the southern border.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Deportation, that will at least bar them from returning.
If you think acting like a terrorist is a good thing, you are not a fit for American culture.
Protest all you want but don’t be a terrorist.
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 1 month ago
They took 3 people hostage