Comment on Overemployed.com And Subreddit: Working Multiple Remote Jobs To Maximize Gains

sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

• squashkin@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  ehhh I don't think it's fraudulent, it's a combination of companies being inefficient and often wasting time plus people working efficiently or harder at times, I would guess

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• iamtanmay@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Look, a lot of companies,esp all IT ones,expect deliverables. On top of that you are expected to attend virtual meetings and do some buereaucracy like filling out time sheets. Deliverables usually have a window of 2 weeks for a list of tasks. Generally, 90% of my meetings have not required much input from me and I work while others talk.

  You can finish your daily quota in half a day. Now I prefer to use my free time to work on business ideas. But someone else could take a second gig if they feel like it. Is it really fraud ? If you don't deliver to either employer, you will get laid off. Even in social welfare countries, they can kick you out during probation at least - usually 6 months.

  I am not a fan of this approach, because I think its wiser to develop your own business in the remaining time, but to each their own.

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  • sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    You're getting paid to have your time directly owned and controlled by the company that hires you. If you're being paid on a piecemeal basis, then fine, but if you're getting paid to dedicate 8 hours a day to your employer, then if you also promise another employer to dedicate 8 hours a day to them then I don't see how that's fraud. If you have two employers paying you on a piecemeal basis then it's not fraud, but if you're paid hourly then I don't see how it isn't.

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    • iamtanmay@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Yes if you are on a monthly contract, you get paid for 40 hours of weekly work, that's true. However, there are a lot of interdependencies in team work, and speed is determined by the slowest task. Generally a team member's job is to finish their pieces before the slowest parts. That gives you extra time which you can use if there is some unexpected trouble, otherwise its yours for free. Aside from meetings, its not unusual to have half the day free after your work, with the caveat of an emergency etc.

      Most remote work is also flexible, only meetings have set times. That means you can sleep during the day and work into the night if that's your thing (that's how I do it). A day has 24 hours and you need a max of 8 hours for 1 job, and 8 hours for sleep, you still have 8 hours for the second job.

      These two factors combined make it possible to fulfill your contract with both clients, delivering what they pay you for. Its not fraud if client A pays you for 8 hours but can only give 4 hours of work, its practical reality. If you used that extra time to watch the news or cook something or chit chat with colleagues, you wouldn't call it fraud, right ?

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      • sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Double billing clients like that... You just won't get me to budge on. The client is paying for your time. If you're charging them then that's their time whether you're waiting or working. If you're charging another client for the same time, that's fraud unless you specifically are going to work 16 hours a day, dedicating an 8 hour block to one employer and another 8 hour block to another employer.

        Hypothetically speaking, let's say you're committing this fraud with employer A and employer B. Both employers are under the impression that they're paying you for hours say between 7 and 3 from monday to friday. You're billing two employers for that time. Now, let's say that employer A and B both want you to attend meetings taking a full week (say it's training or something). You're charging for that time. They need you. Are you going to tell one of the clients you're charging that you're not available despite the fact that they're paying you to be available? You still expect to get paid despite the fact that you won't be available for the block of time they're paying for.

        Grossly unethical, likely illegal. If you're held to any sort of professional code of ethics, I expect you'd be censured under that code of ethics if discovered. I think contact a lawyer if you are thinking of doing it, and I don't think that lawyer is going to tell you any different.

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