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What’s wrong with Briar? briarproject.org

Censorship-resistant peer-to-peer messaging that bypasses centralized servers. Connect via Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or Tor, with privacy built-in.

I think the reason these apps don’t take off is the compromises they make in order to work the way they do. When you do need them, you best hope you’re able to get them and get others to use them as well.

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xnx@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Android only sadly

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- flux@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  As I understand it, these kind of applications depend on being able to perform activities in the background, which is highly limited in iOS for battery efficiency reasons–and maybe for privacy.
  
  Many years ago I was working on a project that shared connectivity details over wifi/bt, and iOS was troublesome also due to the application not being aware of the local bluetooth address.
  
  Possibly similar issues impact other mesh networking applications on the platform.
  
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- Kissaki@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  code.briarproject.org/briar/briar/-/wikis/FAQ#wil…
  
  We’re looking into whether an iOS version is feasible.
  
  A typical iOS messaging app would use a push notification to wake the app when a message is received, but this exposes metadata to Apple’s push notification service and the app developer’s push gateway
  
  If we don’t use push notifications then the best Apple allows us to do is wake up every 15 minutes and check for messages. But maybe the sender won’t be online when we check (their 15 minute intervals might not be aligned with ours - clocks aren’t perfect).
  
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- 6jarjar6@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What about Session, the Signal fork?
  
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  - Cube6392@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Session has made some insecure solution surrounding important design elements like forward secrecy
    
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  - xnx@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That is meshnet based
    
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    sxan@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    And? It works on iOS.
    
    I’m missing the point. Was it that systems like Briar can’t work in iOS because they aren’t mesh net? If so, why not choose one that does, like Session?
    
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Kissaki@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m a bit confused by the app and Mailbox app for being able to receive messages while offline separation. The normal app only supports live communication between two online participants?

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