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• citrusface@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Where does your power come from? You don’t just plug into the wall and get magic clean energy. You are just shifting the shit elsewhere.

  It’s a lie told to sell you a good and you are eating it up.

  Less than 8% of energy consumption in the US comes from renewable energy. Another 8% come from nuclear.

  That’s petrol / natural gas / coal powering your home, factories, ships, and restaurant. Natural gas is not green, it’s greenwashed.

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  • cogman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Where does your power come from?

    Right now? Primarily hydro with a strong solar and wind showing. Roughly 10% of my power is from Fossil fuels.

    You are just shifting the shit elsewhere

    Even with a pure fossil fuel grid, EVs still end up producing less CO2 than ICE vehicles. However, grids aren’t pure fossil fuels which means EVs are far cleaner than Fossil fuel vehicles. Especially in my current circumstance.

    Less than 8% of energy consumption in the US comes from renewable energy. Another 8% come from nuclear.

    13% while being one of the fastest growing energy production sectors.

    www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/

    That’s petrol / natural gas / coal powering your home, factories, shops, and restaurant

    Not mine because I live in the Pacific North West which is the greenest grid in the US.

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    • citrusface@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m just saying right now more than 80% of all energy in the use comes from non renewable / non nuclear power. I’m glad your area has great renewable energy sources in place.

      I’m powered by Sharon Harris nuclear plant.

      I’m not saying that EVs aren’t better, I’m saying that it’s not a magic bandaid. Obviously there is it one fix or easy fix.

      I don’t need to get into my corpo hate right now because I’m tired and I just wanna mine space rocks.

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      • cogman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think we are on the same page. I completely agree that EVs aren’t enough or even the best solution.

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      • wolfpack86@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re only 27-30% powered by nuclear or renewable.

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  • Alatain@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My power comes from the two sets of solar panels and batteries on my land. It is possible to do without fossil fuels. We’re not there yet for everyone, but the problems you point out are solvable, and if solar/EVs had the same amount of backing from the government over the same timeframe that gas/ICE cars have had, we would be in a very different place right now.

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  • Jeanschyso@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mine comes from the many Hydroelectric barrages we have here in Quebec, because we ended our use of coal and methane for generating electricity. 99% of our electricity is Hydro and the rest is wind/solar. I think maybe we have one methane plant somewhere but I don’t know for sure.

    The US have basically every climate on the planet at your disposal except the poles. You could create new interesting ways to generate electricity cleanly, but your government doesn’t. It baffles the mind.

    And then even with coal and methane, burning it at the station in troves is still less damaging than burning gasoline or diesel in individual vehicles because of the tiny bit of carbon the stations that are well run manage to capture (It ain’t much, but it’s more than an F150 that’s for sure)

    I agree that cars should become a niche thing, not used by everyone to get everywhere. That’s completely unsustainable, but it’ll take at least 20 years of good governance for the US to be connected in a meaningful way by fast, frequent, convenient public transportation. Until then, the people who are stuck unable to move closer to work for various reasons will still need to drive, and EV are a good option for more than 80% of them.

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