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DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

The utility of a thing makes it a use value.[4] But this utility is not a thing of air. Being limited by the physical properties of the commodity, it has no existence apart from that commodity. A commodity, such as iron, corn, or a diamond, is therefore, so far as it is a material thing, a use value, something useful. This property of a commodity is independent of the amount of labour required to appropriate its useful qualities.

I could do a million things more productive with my time then than whole paragraphs of tautologies. This is literally beyond obvious. Either point me to some concrete suggestions or don’t but I am not reading a book worth of this.

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Maeve@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
This isn't McDonald's and I'm not your oncall personal spoon feeder.

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- DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Then don’t complain about me assuming you are either too dumb or too uneducated to understand why empty words like those can’t result in a functional governing system.
  
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  - alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You’re making claims about a subject you are not an expert in, and refusing to read any literature on the subject.
    
    You shouldn’t be calling others dumb or uneducated.
    
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    DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    You’re making claims about a subject you are not an expert in, and refusing to read any literature on the subject.
    
    I unfortunately don’t have unlimited time, so I am forced to refuse to read books that are unlikely to be relevant.
    
    But also Capital is written that way to preempt arguments; it’s an academic work. His other works only suffer from 3 page long sentences that require significant contextual and historical knowledge of mid 1800s europe. Lenin is an easier place to start.
    
    Then maybe can you point to a work that does not assume a 1800s economy? Also, Marxism was tried already by the Bolsheviks. It failed terribly. If there were no improvements made since, what is the point? While I like the scientific method, I am certainly not willing to try the same thing again and see if just as many people die a second time.
    
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