And, how likely do you think that any laws are going to actually get passed?
People’s consumption is the only real thing they have agency over. They can vote, but if voting is more a placebo than an actual way to change things.
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Johanno@feddit.de 8 months agoHow much do you think it will change, if people really do the minimum consumption within their possibilities?
And how much will it change, including people’s habits, if you make laws that force companies to consider their co2 output as a problem?
answer
1. About maybe at max 20 - 30% probably much less. 2. Probably about 60 - 90%.
merc@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Kratzkopf@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
The key is to do both because they are principally coupled and nothing happens as long as consumers and corporations just point at each other and use it as an excuse to keep on going like before.
Of course you are right that the focus should lie at changing CO2 output at the producer side because the influence is much more focused there. N my opinion it is also dangerous arguing that the companies only supply what the consumers want because that statement is based on the consumption and is biased too much by what the companies offer and at which price. Consumers usually socioeconomically do not have the choice to buy a product at 1.5 times the price, even if they would prefer it for environmental reasons while these companies have immense profits and can and must afford to reduce and finally stop emissions.
Johanno@feddit.de 8 months ago
I mean of course, but laws will change people’s behaviour indirectly. If it is more expensive to consume co2 heavy products, people will buy the co2 less product.