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Comment on San Francisco bill would let people sue grocery stores for closing too quickly

wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

It’s not the governments job to enable businesses, they already do that with tax breaks, corporate subsidies and passing laws that favor them That is the job of the government. We pay taxes and they provide services. If they can’t keep the city orderly, business won’t do business there.

My priorities are not twisted. I won’t go to a store where people a shitting in front of it. Call me old school but I will spend my dollars somewhere else.

as such that store will close down.

This is what happens when you defund the police and allow the city to turn into a shit hole.

On market street was the old navy flagship store. Old Navy is based out of San Francisco. They couldn’t even keep that open due to the lawlessness.

In Portland they are having similar issues. Nike has to close their store because of crime.

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BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If the only grocery store in your area (if they get their way with the kroger merger) is gone, it won’t matter anyway.

Now it’s the police’s fault? I’m pretty sure you’re just constructing this narrative as you go.

I find myself in Portland frequently for work and can tell you firsthand, it’s wayyyyyy better crime-wise than many cities in the US. I get to travel a lot and see more than the news organizations would have you believe. It’s not due to crime, even if that was the reason given.

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- wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Now it’s the police’s fault? I’m pretty sure you’re just constructing this narrative as you go. No, it’s not their fault. They are acting under the guidance of the city council. They didn’t ask to be defunded and allow crime to go rampant. Some of my friends are SF officers and they are livid over what has happened to the city.
  
  I find myself in Portland frequently for work and can tell you firsthand, it’s wayyyyyy better crime-wise than many cities in the US.
  
  Look at my name. I am in Portland a couple of times a week to almost daily. The crime us rampant and the homeless population has exploded.
  
  I expect once drugs are criminalized, we will see order restored fairly quickly.
  
  opb.org/…/nike-permanently-closes-northeast-portl…
  
  when the store quietly shuttered its doors due to internal and external theft and safety issues.
  
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  - BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I dunno, compared to many other cities in the Midwest, south, and southeast Portland really isn’t that bad. A little dirty and a homelessness problem but that’s literally every city right now.
    
    Ehh, it’s not the drug criminality. It’s a lot of things, including cost of living, Portland police literally refusing to respond to calls and do their job, and lax laws on responding to homelessness. It’s a sad failure of the system, sure. But it’s just not the boogeyman conservative media likes to say it is.
    
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    wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    It’s actually gotten better since COVID, noticeably.
    
    I think that’s a matter of opinion.
    
    PPb isn’t refusing calls. They are short staffed. They lose a ton of officers over the calls to defund.
    
    I won’t overly defend PPb because I think they needed a reckoning. A family member of a friend was beat to death by PPB for not a good reason.
    
    I would like to think that’s the only time I’ve heard a similar story but it isn’t.
    
    The only reason the officers got into any trouble was several of the family members worked for the governor directly.
    
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