Comment on Political science
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I think the better way to say it is that all art can be understood in a political frame of reference
Using this as a rebuttal to the idea that art can always be understood in a political light for example, is a political statement, that statement being “stop bringing politics into my field of view!”
The idea of apoliticalness is one that originates from, as a maddened wizard once drivelled, “devout followers of the status quo”, they see politics as a tool only for fixing things, and so the idea that everything is political is to them an extremely radical statement that should be regarded with suspicion, it’s almost an accusation in their eyes, and people go into fight or flight mode when feeling accused.
This guy chose freeze and put up a distorted luigi model in an attempt to soil himself so that the bear would stop eating him
testfactor@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think the issue with this interpretation is the word “inherently” in the original post. It implies there is some intrinsic value to the art that makes it political.
While it’s true that all art can be interpreted politically, it’s no more or less true than “all food can be interpreted politically” or “all cats can be interpreted politically.” I can understand absolutely anything you want in a “political frame of reference.”
When a definition is that broad, it becomes useless.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
It’s not useless.
It’s specifically not useless because people forget this.
Where there is disagreement, there is politics.
Telling Mariah Carey to leave politics in her b-sides is, inherently, not possible.
testfactor@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s true that where there’s disagreement there’s politics. It’s also true that where there’s agreement there’s politics. There’s politics in Mariah’s B-sides and A-sides and in the font chosen in the album cover. The material the disc is made out of is politics, and so is the air that transmits the sound waves to your ears.
My point is that if everything is political, then calling something political loses all meaning. The term political is, then, useless.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
But how would you tell someone of the world’s politics without it?
You don’t seem to agree, but it’s kind of incontrovertible.
All communication is rhetoric. The way that you stand, the clothes you present, the style of speech you adopt—but rhetoric is just the name for all of that.
Colloquially, political just means something is more terse than usual.
But that’s the thing I’m arguing about. The usual, the normal, is still at odds with the fringes. There is no debate between the political instigators and normal, apolitical society, who would like to return to a time when trans people weren’t in movies (or blacks, or women)—there is only politics.
I’m just saying, a lot of people are afraid to rock the boat, and they need to get off that shit.