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melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Here’s one article from January with more than five incidents, though only four from separate named top level sources. These aren’t ambiguous or off record; these are what south Africa’s lawyers are taking to the UN world court. (Prime minister, deputy head of parliament/head of dominant party, defense minister, ‘heritage minister’ whatever that is) huffpost.com/…/israel-rhetoric-palestinians-south…

Heres another article from about the same time about the same thing, also cites a 5th top level named source (adding finance minister) apnews.com/…/israel-palestinians-south-africa-gen…

So that’s five (more? Didn’t scroll down farther in AP article) cabinetish level genocidal shit geysers in literally the first two search results.

And as a fun bonus, here’s the kinds of songs they have their children sing: palestinechronicle.com/we-will-annihilate-everyon…

Taking a loooooooong-ass shower now, so sorry about slow reply.

The thing about fascism is: every accusation is a confession. Every last one. I know, you’re thinking the dumb version of ‘he who fights monsters’ (having never read Nietzsche), but that was Hitlers entire strategy with ‘the big lie’; to turn his storm troopers into exactly the thing he accused his victims of being, and then use shit libs like you as his defense. And it worked for a really fun king long time. Read a book (though maybe not his. Plenty of scholars of fascism out there can explain it better than i!) .

They aren’t human. They weren’t born this way, and denying that is denying their autonomy. They’ve said they won’t stop, short of being killed, or that ‘nothing will stop us’. There is one way to stop this genocide, and if you didn’t care about saving the Palestinian people, you’re a fucking bad faith liar for saying there is anything disallowed to do to kapostanis. They need to die. Their ‘culture’ (which is literally just atrocities and shit they pillaged. Bet you can’t even get a decent bagel or pastrami sandwich over there)

And lol, using grammar or immediate ‘fuck wrong button’ edits to pretend I said totally different shit

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Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

“You must remember what Amalek has done to you.” Amalekites were persecutors of the biblical Israelites, and a biblical commandment says they must be destroyed.

Two days after the Hamas attack, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said Israel was “fighting human animals,” in announcing a complete siege on Gaza.

I don’t think those show the sort of genocidal intent we discussed it, with more obvious extermination comments.

Deputy Knesset speaker Nissim Vaturi from the ruling Likud party wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Israelis had one common goal, “erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth.” Israeli Heritage Minister Amichay Eliyahu, from the far-right Jewish Power party, suggested that Israel drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza and said there were “no uninvolved civilians” in the territory.

The first comment from here is much clearer.

Defending Israel in court, lawyer Malcolm Shaw said the remarks were made mostly by officials with little role in determining Israeli policy, calling them “random quotes” that were misleading and had been in some cases repudiated by Netanyahu.

I think that might be true for some, though deputy speaker from the ruling party seems like someone who’d have a role.

Off topic, but the two articles are remarkably similar. Some stuff (not meaning quotes) are word for word same and the same structure and everything is the same. Journalists being lazy, I guess.

They aren’t human. They weren’t born this way, and denying that is denying their autonomy. They’ve said they won’t stop, short of being killed, or that ‘nothing will stop us’. There is one way to stop this genocide, and if you didn’t care about saving the Palestinian people, you’re a fucking bad faith liar for saying there is anything disallowed to do to kapostanis. They need to die. Their ‘culture’ (which is literally just atrocities and shit they pillaged. Bet you can’t even get a decent bagel or pastrami sandwich over there)

I don’t know if you are saying that about Israelis or talking about or lampooning the rhetoric the Israelis use about Palestinians.

And lol, using grammar or immediate ‘fuck wrong button’ edits to pretend I said totally different shit

I was talking about how you added a lot to your comment. First the comment was just “How many. Give me a number.”, then you added the rest. That’s what I meant.

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- melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Youre not responding to any if the other examples. There are at least five in those two links.
  
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  - Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I thought the other examples was some soldiers and a journalist, a mention of “military officials and two Israeli pop singers are also cited by South Africa for making inflammatory comments” (didn’t include the comments) so not the top level stuff we discussed about? The goalposts have always been the same and you even wanted a specific number for it, five top level comments talking about extermination etc.
    
    It would be a lot easier if you quoted the parts you specifically refer to, so there would be no room for me to miss them. A lot clearer that way.
    
    Genocidal fucking coward.
    
    Wat. I’m just disagreeing with you online, it doesn’t seem serious enough to call me genocidal because of that, even if you are very passionate about the topic.
    
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    melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I listed the officials cited. At least five cabinet level or high up parliament ghouls.
    
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