Comment on Gunfire From Deputies Killed Teen Who Had Been Reported Kidnapped, Video Shows

• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Facts matter. I’m not in the position to defend anyone, as it’s hard to know exactly what happened, even after watching the video several times.

  What matters is the police killed the person they were trying to save.

  When you’re in a situation where bullets are flying from both the “'good” and “bad” guy, innocent victims can, and do, get killed. This happens more often than you’d think, and there isn’t a perfect way to end a situation like this. Everyone’s life is at risk when you’ve got a murderer in a car not willing to surrender.

  The narrative that all those officers, except for one, wanted the KIDNAP VICTIM to be shot and killed is so deranged and incomprehensible outside an American mindset.

  Let’s not lose focus here. The father who kidnapped her is ultimately the one to blame. His actions led to her death.

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  • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Let’s not lose focus here. The father who kidnapped her is ultimately the one to blame. His actions led to her death.

    This is a wild take. These cops (all of them present) are to blame for where the rounds from their firearms go.

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    • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So it was the cops who woke up that day and said “I want to kill an innocent girl today”, rather than the guy who actually got up with the intention to kill his family?

      We obviously have two different perspectives, but I could never see it that way.

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      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Its not a binary choice and presenting it as such is manipulative. Those cops where there to do what?

        If it was to protect the populous then they failed miserably, shooting wildly into the public many times. If it was to save the girl then they failed completely when they murdered her. If it was to show everyone they are in control and had the situation in hand then they failed spectacularly when they made the whole situation into chaos If it was to bring the father to justice for intending to kill his family then they failed tragically when they helped him out by killing his family for him.

        The idea that no matter what the cops do its the accused fault is so ass backwards to anyone outside of the USA. These chuckle fucks made a bad situation much worse while showing off their massive incompetence. Hell what would have happen if they all did not show up for work that day?

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  • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The narrative that all those officers, except for one, wanted the KIDNAP VICTIM to be shot and killed is so deranged and incomprehensible outside an American mindset.

    The idea that you have to have wanted something to happen to face consequences for it happening is going to set a lot of folks free from prison though.

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    • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The idea that you have to have wanted something to happen to face consequences for it happening is going to set a lot of folks free from prison though.

      No, because the justice system balances the sentence based on intent. Homicide, 2nd degree murder, 1st degree murder, etc.

      This is why drivers who run over pedestrians often get no jail time, while someone who plows into pedestrians on purpose goes to jail for a long time.

      You could most certainly make a case that the officers could have been negligent, which caused someone to be killed.

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      • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Then why is your entire contribution to the thread a deflection of any suggestion of consequences?

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