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wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Chop was an actual rebellion. Jan 6th was not.

The cia and fbi are deep state. There are serious ethical issues with both agencies. Remember Waco and ruby ridge? Randy weaver killed an fbi agent because they were trying to murder his family. It was self defense. Why were they operating as a hit squad? No an obvious disclaimer, I don’t support Randy’s beliefs but I don’t support trying to murder him over trumped up charges.

The myth that the police are murdering minorities is just that a myth. Qualified immunity has nothing to do wit criminal charges. Zero. Zilch. It’s about civil liability. Why doesn’t the left understand basic law ?

Most shooting by the police are fully justified and legal. It’s a face if life. I’ve seen the left protest the shootings in in Salem Oregon. Once you take the time to research them. Almost all of them were people shooting at the police when they were shot. Their facts don’t match the truth.

Now I’m an advocate of police reform but it’s hard to talk about the topic without listing specific cases. Philando is a case I feel was an injustice. I think the officer should have been convicted but once again it nothing to do with qualified immunity. That has zero bearing on a criminal case.

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PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Why doesn’t the left understand basic law ?

That’s an issue with the legal profession as a whole. But also, TIL.

The myth that the police are murdering minorities is just that a myth.

Most shooting by the police are fully justified and legal.

Fine, the left riots and protests violent over police killing minorities and being protected from civil charges with qualified immunity while the perceived nature of the profession shields them from criminal charges in most cases.

The cia and fbi are deep state. There are serious ethical issues with both agencies.

That there are ethical issues with both agencies doesn’t mean they’re deep state. I agree with the former but reject the latter out of hand. The deep state is manufactured ghost that permits its users to project their fears onto things that simply don’t exist.

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- wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  the perceived nature of the profession shields them from criminal charges in most cases.
  
  Or there was nothing criminal that happened. Police are allowed to use force to make an arrest and deadly force to protect their lives or serious bodily injury. People don’t understand how much force a cop can legally use and it’s a lot by law and case law. It’s much more than you’d think.
  
  That there are ethical issues with both agencies doesn’t mean they’re deep state.
  
  And that’s fair. I may be using the word incorrectly. It’s meaning has changed significantly over the years.
  
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Zeppo@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Sorry, but violently attacking and invading the capitol specifically to force a different outcome on an election is absolutely an attempt to overthrow the elected government.

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- wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  FBI disagrees with you. I’ll take their word over yours.
  
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  - Zeppo@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The FBI said it wasn’t a widely organized attempt, but that groups such as the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys did have that goal. Pretty sure Trump did as well.
    
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