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FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I dislike Facebook, so that's why I am here. But if the only way to stay in touch with people I know irl is on Threads, so be it.

Do you see how they are already using their size to control and negatively impact the fediverse? The very fact you are arguing that.

If you know them IRL, you can tell them IRL to get off of facebook.

If they won't well, either keep talking to them IRL or reexamine who your friends are.

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i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Facebook is not (yet?) negatively impacting the fediverse. Fediverse users are.

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- FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Facebook is not (yet?) negatively impacting the fediverse. Fediverse users are.
  
  Meta negatively impacts everything by being Meta. You should not cover for nor defend them.
  
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- t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Influence is about perception, and though it may be other people who are acting on that perception, it is still very carefully and intentionally managed by Meta. Lots of people think Facebook is too important not to be a member of, or that you can’t get hired without a LinkedIn, or that you can’t use the internet without giving up your info to Apple, Google, or Microsoft, so why even bother trying not to… and they’re all false narratives that those companies use their size and money to create and maintain the perception of, even if it’s of course the individuals that go along with those narratives. Facebook doesn’t have to hold a gun to your head to make you act a certain way.
  
  So yes, Meta absolutely is directly impacting the Fediverse by announcing their intent to offer federation with Threads.
  
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petrescatraian@libranet.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
@FfaerieOxide I think we all have our needs and wants, out of which all need to be addressed in one way or another.
The very fact we're having this discussion is a healthy sign that it's okay to have different opinions on such topics - no matter how wrong it sounds.
There is no one-size-fits-all, despite some people like FediTips/FediFollows/FediWhatever is thinking about people.
And bad people and entities exist all the time. They existed before Facebook, they existed with Facebook (and Meta), and they will exist after Meta as well. Just check any blocklist of any okay server and you will spot them.
If you know them IRL, you can tell them IRL to get off of facebook.
This didn't work, sadly. And it doesn't work because such platforms make you think that they are the default. That nothing exists beside them or that if it does, it's either dangerous or empty. Don't you even see that the first question someone joining Mastodon is "who is also there?". This is a good opportunity to show them that someone is there...
@hedge
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- FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  This didn't work, sadly.
  
  How much are those relationships worth then?
  
  And it doesn't work because such platforms make you think that they are the default
  
  You make Meta seem more like the default by allowing contact with you through it. Be something they can't access while associating with evil.
  
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  - petrescatraian@libranet.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    @FfaerieOxide that's not how the perception of the masses works, though.
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    FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    that's not how the perception of the masses works, though.
    
    How can allowing access to everything on something people start out viewing as the defualt make it seem like less of the default?
    
    Only by things existing outside of threads can people realize it it not.
    
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