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• Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It makes sense bud, comprehension seems to be a you issue.

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  • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No. It was very poorly written. It made zero sense

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    • Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I understood it, you didn’t therefore it’s a comprehension issue which again is a you issue.

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      • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure you did.

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• LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The joke here revolves around the irony and contradiction in the situation described. The character named “Neuromancer” refers to William Gibson’s novel “Neuromancer,” which is a foundational work in the cyberpunk genre. Cyberpunk fiction often explores themes of advanced technology and cybernetics, set against a backdrop of dystopian futures dominated by large corporations and the decay of society—essentially, highlighting the negative aspects and potential downfall of unchecked capitalism and technological advancement.

  The irony comes from someone named after a genre that critiques capitalism (cyberpunk, through the book “Neuromancer”) posting something that seems oblivious to or in conflict with those critiques. The joke suggests that it’s ironic and somewhat foolish for someone who has chosen a name symbolizing critique of capitalism to then engage in behavior that seems uncritical of, or even complicit in, the flaws of capitalism that cyberpunk literature aims to highlight.

  The phrase “like being hit in the face and still not getting the message” amplifies this irony. It’s a metaphor for being directly confronted with the consequences or criticisms of something (in this case, capitalism’s negative aspects as explored in cyberpunk literature) but still failing to understand or acknowledge them.

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  • Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Its been a while since I read it, but iirc, the whole evil capitalism thing wasnt really there in Neuromancer, that only really came in later books in the genre, and it isnt strict.

    If you want a pro-capitalism book, the Unincorporated Man is pretty good. Follows a full on horse shoe theory society that went so hard into capitalism they came out on the other side into future-communism, and the hero is a modern billionaire that got frozen for thousands of years, and the entire plot is a lawsuit over him never being incorporated. Brilliant read.

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    • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ll have to check that one out.

      I took a college class on Phillip and William. Anti-capitalism wasn’t brought up once. I’ll have to go re-read some of his interviews. I always got the vibe he was more libertarian like dick. That would be the exact opposite of anti-capitalism.

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  • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think capitalism is flawed. I have done well under it as all my peers. It’s the best system to take yourself from poverty to success.

    It’s the only system prove to work time and time again.

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    • LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, William Gibson, in his work, particularly in the novel “Neuromancer” and other stories within the cyberpunk genre, offers a critique of capitalism. His critiques are not always direct condemnations but are embedded within the settings, characters, and plots of his stories. Gibson’s narratives often unfold in dystopian futures where society is heavily influenced by technology and dominated by large corporations. These settings highlight several issues associated with capitalism, such as:

      1. Corporatization and Monopolization: Gibson’s worlds are often controlled by powerful corporations that have more influence than governments, showcasing the dangers of monopolization and corporatization in a capitalist society. This reflects concerns about the concentration of power and wealth and the erosion of democratic institutions.

      2. Economic Inequality: The stark contrast between the wealthy elite and the impoverished masses in Gibson’s stories draws attention to the issue of economic inequality, a common critique of capitalism. His works suggest that technological advancement and capitalist pursuits further exacerbate this divide.

      3. Commodification of Everything: Gibson explores how, in a highly capitalist future, everything becomes commodified, including human relationships and body parts (through cybernetics). This critique points to the reduction of human values to market values.

      4. Technological Exploitation: While not exclusively a critique of capitalism, Gibson’s depiction of the exploitation of technology for profit and power reflects concerns about capitalist societies prioritizing technological advancement and economic growth over ethical considerations and human well-being.

      5. Environmental Degradation: Although not the central theme of his work, the dystopian worlds Gibson creates often feature environmental degradation as a backdrop, suggesting a critique of industrial capitalism’s unsustainable exploitation of natural resources.

      Through these themes, Gibson’s work contributes to a broader discourse on the pitfalls and ethical concerns associated with capitalist societies, particularly regarding their future trajectory in the face of advancing technology and corporatization.

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      • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I disagree. If you look through Gibson’s interviews and hires, I’ve yet to find any sort of comment on capitalism.

        The closest quote I can remember is how in the future we will be defined more by the products we own rather than a nation. Paraphrasing of course.

        Gibson wrote about dystopian futures because that’s a common theme for science fiction. I would love to see how you think wintemute is related to capitalism. Wintermute is trying to merge with nueromancer. Wintermute wears mask since with the Turing locks it can’t form an identify.

        I see no capitalism pro or con in that statement.

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