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TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Not a purity test. I watch Pakman and Kyle Kulinski and the Majority Report. But, they don’t claim to be a libertarian socialist. It’s about honesty. Maybe he’s just confused. But for someone who has read “all theory,” I find his position on NATO dishonest.

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SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
And a real democratic socialist thinks russian imperialism is… Good? I mean you can’t even pretend Ukraine is NATO’s fault because they’ve been invading neighbors for over 20 years.

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- TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  All imperialism is bad. A person can be against Russian imperialism, American imperialism and NATO. NATO’s original mission was a check on the socialism of the Soviet Union. Source.
  
  Today,
  
  Instead of being for collective self-defense, NATO is a means for several of the most powerful states in the world—including the US, Canada, the UK, France, and Germany—to maintain global control of people and resources to serve western capitalist interests. Source
  
  Simply, as a socialist, you can’t be anti-capitalist and pro-NATO. Vaush is not a socialist. He’s a social democrat at best, which is fine. But don’t lie to your audience and misrepresent yourself.
  
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  - SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    OK, I’ll let you have it because I have a separate question.
    
    So in the ideal socialist land where nato disbands and the US is no longer the world police… Who stops Russia?
    
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    TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Hypothetically? It’s impossible to guess what would have happened 30 years ago if NATO had dissolved. But if I had to theorize:
    
    If NATO had dissolved, Ukraine would still be a vassal state of Russia in under Yanukovych. So, Russia would never had the invaded.
    
    But, even if the Maidan happened. Ukraine could still get help from Europe and America without NATO.
    
    If China and the BRICS countries formed a military defensive alliance to secure their interests through trade, would Vaush be in support of that kind of imperialism? If the answer is No, then, why?
    
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