Comment on Justice Jackson ripped for worrying about the First Amendment 'hamstringing' government: 'Literally the point'

• wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Like when Biden said you can’t catch Covid if you are vaccinated? Or you won’t die? Both are false. Or when fauci said cloth mask are effective ? They are not.

  That’s why an open debate is important. People need to be informed and able to have effective conversations about the topic.

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  • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re talking about the content of what the government is asking. I’m asking about the act of asking itself, as was Justice Jackson.

    That’s why an open debate is important. People need to be informed and able to have effective conversations about the topic.

    Yes, but…there are various indications that open debate is often a platform for misinformation. Furthermore, people often either can’t or won’t distinguish between what’s false and what’s true. Or rather, their test for veracity is identity rather than reality…like when Fauci said cloth masks were effective and you believed they weren’t. That’s a case in point.

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    • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t believe anything. The science shows they don’t work. They isn’t a belief. That’s a fact. Studies before the pandemic showed that to be true, studies during the pandemic showed that to be true and studies after the pandemic came to the same conclusion.

      Fauci even admitted he knew he was lying.

      I get you people like 1984 but we don’t need to make it how we run our country.

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    • BottomTierJannie@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re talking about the content of what the government is asking. I’m asking about the act of asking itself, as was Justice Jackson

      Yes. The act of asking is itself the problem. Justices should not be asking questions of whether or not we should discard the constitution just because it makes her political masters have a hard time enacting their garbage.

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      • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Your report on my post was warranted. Noted. Warning to myself for violation for Rule #1.

        But also, your response is hyberbolic and conspiratorial and, as a consequence, entirely unhelpful. The hyperbole of discarding the constitution and the conspiracy of her having political masters masks the missing connections between what Justice Jackson is asking and what you saying she’s doing. You’re talking to someone who doesn’t do not agree with you, so rather than making massive, unwarranted leaps in logic, let’s try increments.

        We’ll start at the beginning: So, there are absolutely no circumstances when the government can do anything to promote the public’s interest in health and safety through factual information? None at all? Zero?

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