So an Arab who lived in a city where Pagan believes dominated and neither read nor write was read the Torah in hebrew that he didn’t understand? And that is how he made statementes consistent with the descriptions in hebrew, which again he didn’t understand?
By that time Christianity existed, and most of the Middle East was the Roman empire. It’s not far fetched. The old testament of Christianity is basically the Torah texts freely translated and somewhat changed, and Christianity was by that time, thanks to constantine, the most widely spread religion in the Roman empire. It’s not a miracle or a coincidence. People traveled then, too. It’s about as far fetched as an American-born Buddhist these days. Not common, but it happens.
In fact, the silk road has existed for centuries, if not millenia by then. If they can trade with places as far as China, it’s not far fetched for a religion proven to be inspired by both Judaism and Christianity to have a lot of similarities to have traveled a little over the Roman empire’s borders.
Then why are Christian depictions of Angels strongly different from the biblical and quranic descriptions? E.g. looking at the pa
Also then the prophet Mohammed would have needed some sort of elusive Jewish or Christian mentor, that somehow was close to him all the time over two decades, reading the Torah or bible to him. But no such figure is mentioned, despite the life of Mohammed to be about the best reported on life of a historical figure. There is countless of eyewitness reports about his life and work, yet there is no mention of such a person. The Quran strictly rejects the concept of trinity or Jesus being the literal son of god, but confirms the virgin pregnancy of Mary. So it seems extremely implausible for their to be a Christian who would have told all these things to Mohammed.
The reason why i am so pedantic about it, is because the statements made by Mohammed are not just some general “there is angels with wings and stuff” or “there was this Moses guy” statements, but sharing details with the Torah descriptions in Hebrew, but also distinctly differing on some aspects with the Torah in a consistent way. For instance the differences in the story of Moses or Abraham
DosDude@retrolemmy.com 2 years ago
They wrote it down, Monks (or the religion’s equivalent) copied them. Religious leaders read them aloud. It’s not hard to understand.
tryptaminev@feddit.de 2 years ago
So an Arab who lived in a city where Pagan believes dominated and neither read nor write was read the Torah in hebrew that he didn’t understand? And that is how he made statementes consistent with the descriptions in hebrew, which again he didn’t understand?
DosDude@retrolemmy.com 2 years ago
By that time Christianity existed, and most of the Middle East was the Roman empire. It’s not far fetched. The old testament of Christianity is basically the Torah texts freely translated and somewhat changed, and Christianity was by that time, thanks to constantine, the most widely spread religion in the Roman empire. It’s not a miracle or a coincidence. People traveled then, too. It’s about as far fetched as an American-born Buddhist these days. Not common, but it happens.
In fact, the silk road has existed for centuries, if not millenia by then. If they can trade with places as far as China, it’s not far fetched for a religion proven to be inspired by both Judaism and Christianity to have a lot of similarities to have traveled a little over the Roman empire’s borders.
tryptaminev@feddit.de 2 years ago
Then why are Christian depictions of Angels strongly different from the biblical and quranic descriptions? E.g. looking at the pa
Also then the prophet Mohammed would have needed some sort of elusive Jewish or Christian mentor, that somehow was close to him all the time over two decades, reading the Torah or bible to him. But no such figure is mentioned, despite the life of Mohammed to be about the best reported on life of a historical figure. There is countless of eyewitness reports about his life and work, yet there is no mention of such a person. The Quran strictly rejects the concept of trinity or Jesus being the literal son of god, but confirms the virgin pregnancy of Mary. So it seems extremely implausible for their to be a Christian who would have told all these things to Mohammed.
The reason why i am so pedantic about it, is because the statements made by Mohammed are not just some general “there is angels with wings and stuff” or “there was this Moses guy” statements, but sharing details with the Torah descriptions in Hebrew, but also distinctly differing on some aspects with the Torah in a consistent way. For instance the differences in the story of Moses or Abraham