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Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Not sure I really understand that. So I’m working and making a decent wage, say $100k/yr. Now for some reason I can easily tell my employer to take a hike because $12k of it is guaranteed? How does this suddenly make $110k jobs available to switch to?

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Highstronaught@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s not that it makes 110 k jobs immediately available, it’s that is gives you more leverage with negotiating pay as if you walk away you are not under threat of starving to death. As you would potentially be if you had no income between jobs.

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- Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I own a house. I don’t think $12k is going to keep me from starving or more importantly, I’m no more likely to walk out on a job once I reach a certain income because it just isn’t enough. It may work if your flipping burgers.
  
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  - Highstronaught@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It doesn’t have to necessarily be $1000 per month, it should be the minimum amount of money needed to have food, clothing, shelter etc. just enough to live off. For me £1000 per month is plenty for where I live.
    
    It also isn’t just about encouraging higher pay, knowing that workers are not longer worried about putting food on the table when they are voting to strike might influence management decisions on redundancys or workplace safety.
    
    For people who earn 100k, and are living at their means (i.e, spending that amount of money on better food, housing, clothes and other luxurys) it would be a big jump but for the people who would most benifit from ubi it would be more manageable.
    
    Also apologies for replying so late, I either closed the notification accidentally or just never got one.
    
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    Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Did you mean "… For people who earn 100k, and are living at their means, it WOULDN’T be a big jump…? "
    
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howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

How does this suddenly make $110k jobs available to switch to?

I don’t think it does. Did I say something that implied this?

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- Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I wasn’t actually replying to you, at least not intentionally. However I do see what might be considered a flaw. I can see some part time jobs only paying say $15k a year. In your scenario the employer would only have to pay those workers $3k a year. This would be great for the employer, cheap labor and it would be easy to kick someone to the curb because he only has to cough up say $4k a year to attract a new employee. It sounds like this would reduce his social security outlay too, unless your suggesting employers have to pay a base SS tax on $1k a month?
  
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